Emma, The Imagination and NLP 1

Introduction

Emma received a “Be Humble” award from motivational company Arete Syndicate [1] in Dec 2023, which she tweeted about.

The Arete award’s freemasonic symbolism raised a few eyebrows and many were surprised that Emma had been a member of Arete for 5 years. Some people researched the costs of membership, the symbolism, the owners, her boss, and much else. I was not one of those researchers. It was perhaps these dives that also raised questions about Emma’s qualifications in neurolinguistic programming, NLP or perhaps it was coincidental timing. NLP is the use of language to bypass the conscious and access the subconscious.

Kelly and NLP

The next month in January 2024 Kelly Cox O’Brien’s account WrightandRight seems to have been the first to raise Emma’s NLP and the potential for misuse of such a technique.

The background of this account, Kelly Cox O’Brien is that she claims to be the daughter of Cathy O’Brien, and that Social Security have verified her identity, although Cathy’s twitter account denies it. However it is not clear who is operating Cathy’s twitterX account, as it was admitted that Mikaela / Shaela set up the account and ran it when it started. Furthermore there are signs that Cathy may have been re-accessed and come under nefarious control since Mark Phillip’s death. I have written many posts on the situation, see the list at the end, and there are a few more to write when time permits. To avoid confusion I refer to the Kelly Cox on X as XKelly.

NLP had been a topic of concern for XKelly for some time. She had posted about NLP being used on Cathy.

Cathy and NLP

This tweet by XKelly was much later, however it makes sense to start with the similarities between Bandler and Cathy. XKelly stated that her own traffickers were word wizards, and used occult spells with NLP.

There are some odd similarities. Cathy’s first book was called TRANCE Formation of America. Richard Bandler, the founder of the NLP approach to psychotherapy, wrote a book on NLP called TRANCE-formations, which had all sorts of mind control and cult symbolism, The Magikal Connections to TRANCE Formation [COB4]. Both have capitalised the TRANCE.

The Society of NLP was co-founded by Richard Bandler, a mathematician and computer scientist, and John Grinder a linguist. It is the original certification body for NLP and its logo bears a similarity to Cathy’s book.

See Cathy O’Brien 4 - The Magikal Connections to TRANCE Formation [fb32488].

There is an article on Cathy’s website about NLP, and that states that Cathy’s father learned NLP to great effect, that Cathy’s handler in the 1980’s Alex Houston used NLP and that US Senator Robert C. Byrd, Cathy’s owner for a time, was a master at NLP, Triggered: NLP An Inside Perspective [3] [3a].

XKelly and NLP

XKelly says that she was trafficked by a family member who was a programmer and practitioner of NLP, hypnosis and Timeline Therapy.

• NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming): A psychological approach that studies the connections between neurological processes, language, and behavioural patterns to model excellence and facilitate personal change.

• Hypnosis: A natural state of focused attention and heightened suggestibility in which the critical faculty of the mind is bypassed to allow positive therapeutic suggestions to take root.

• Time Line Therapy™: A NLP-derived therapeutic process that uses a person’s internal “time line” (how they unconsciously store memories) to release negative emotions, limiting decisions, and create a compelling future, [g].

XKelly says that she was trafficked by creating amnesia of the event with dark psychology, i.e. covert hypnosis and NLP, as well as MK Ultra and a Taser. She says that the Taser interrupts the memory switching from short term to long term.

Timeline Therapy is less well known than NLP. It was developed in the 1980’s by Tad James, building on the work of Richard Bandler and John Grinder, the co-creators of NLP. The technique is built on the concept that each person has an unconscious time line - an internal metaphorical way of storing memories in a sequence, past present future. Negative emotions and limiting beliefs are said to be connected to past events termed “gestalts”. If they are not released they keep creating the same emotional patterns in the present and the future. See Appendix 2 for more information.

Back in 2022, XKelly tweeted publicly about her concern that Alyssa Milano was using NLP to shut people down who were questioning her about her support of Balenciaga clothing, who had been exposed for their role in child abuse.

Kelly also talked about quantum coding, and said that conversational hypnosis, NLP and post-hypnotic suggestions run deep and people can quantum code on biofields.

“with [q]uantum ©oding being the BIG SECRET, that is fair advice.
Most don’t know that others can ©0de on biofields ... & conversational hypnosis, NLP & post-hypnotic suggestions run deep.
Many careers are made successful with secret knowledge used (gain of fun©tion) on manKind”

In 2023 XKelly was worried that whoever was using the X accounts of Cathy was using NLP to silence critical analysis.

Cathy’s twitter account said that Cathy was in contact with Kelly and that there were imposters. However the question is whether Cathy has been accessed after Mark Phillip’s death and who is using the twitter account. Many people think so. Has Cathy been led to believe that someone else is Kelly? After Mark’s death Cathy also started speaking at many conferences at which there are hypnotists and handlers.

XKelly draws attention to the money being made from these events and that they are at locations where Cathy has been previously tortured and programmed with mind control.

There is increasing concern generally by survivors and survivor advocates that many of these conferences are not what they purport to be. “Christian conferences”, UFO conferences, deprogramming conferences, all perhaps designed to bring survivors back under luciferian control. Fiona Barnett mentioned her bad experience in her book, available free via [131], and Anastasia wrote about her experience at a UFO conference, [7]. Veronica Swift has also summarised a few more cases in her article Conference Concerns [4]. It is an area that needs more research and discernment from survivors in which conferences they are attending.

XKelly on Emma and NLP

It is easy to understand why Kelly, herself having been trafficked via NLP, was worried about the safety of survivors on Emma’s podcast, with the training that Emma said that she had in NLP. Emma’s podcast was called “The Imagination Podcast” and an example given of a conversational hypnosis word was the word “imagine”.

In Dec 2021 Emma had boasted that she was Master Practitioner, both of NLP and Hypnosis. She even seemed to claim to be the same level as the “elite” who were also Master Practitioners. What did she mean by this?

Text - “Neurolinguistic Programming & Hypnosis. I’m actually a Master Practitioner of both. Trained under the brilliant and late Tad James - one of the pioneers of NLP and hypnosis academia & application. The “Elite” use language against you. They are also Master Practitioners”.

Emma also said that she had trained under Tad James. Tad James was one of the original group in the Society of Neuro-Linguistic Programming with Richard Bandler, John Grinder, Christina Hall, Steve and Connirae Andreas and Wyatt Woodsmall. So Emma was deliberating pointing out / name dropping that she was trained by one of the original NLP crew, [5].

In January 2024, Kelly then drew attention publicly to the fact that Emma from the Imagination Podcast was a Master Practitioner of NLP and of Hypnosis. XKelly also questioned whether she might be a VR/AR (virtual reality / augmented reality) coder. She also questioned the formation of a limited liability company, LLC by Emma.

Emma Talks about her NLP and Hypnosis Training

In 2021 Emma said that she was “a Master Practitioner in hypnosis and NLP for 6 years now”. The way that Emma worded it, appears to imply that she had been practising hypnosis and NLP for 6 years.

“I’m a Master Practitioner in hypnosis / NLP for 6 years now. In the training, they stuck to teaching all the positive applications. I’ve been learning the applications in how it’s used abusively over the past couple years and it’s mind-blowing. Literally”.

She also added that in the training she had been taught the positive applications but in the last couple of years, she had been learning how it was used abusively. That would take Emma learning the abusive applications of NLP back to Dec 2019 and the start of her NLP training to about 2015.

Emma said that her training was in hypnosis, ”My training is in hypnosis” giving the impression that her training in hypnosis had been substantial.

There is also a video from 2020 of Emma talking about her NLP qualifications / abilities. The video is cued up at the start of the hypnosis statement.

2020 Culture & Cannabis Podcast Episode #054 Emma Pietrzak [6]

At around 9 mins Emma says, “…so let’s back up just a little bit some people don’t know this about me, but I’m actually a Master Practitioner of hypnosis and that’s actually how I got interested in conspiracy theories, because after learning about hypnosis you actually learn a lot about how the media, the government actually mass hypnotizes society”.

Emma wanted people to know that she was Master Practitioner of hypnosis.

Dr. Darian Interview

In 2019 in an interview with Dr. Darian, he said that Emma had provided him with a bio that read like a book. His show notes on Emma, seem to have been taken from that bio. Highlighted are perhaps the points of most interest. For the text see Appendix 4.

2019 Jun 21

The show notes say

• Emma … went on to become a Master Practitioner of NLP, Hypnosis, and Time Line Therapy from one of Tony Robbins personal mentors in Las Vegas, NV, Tad James at the Tad James Company in 2015.

Time Line Therapy according to Grok is considered an advanced NLP method.

A client uses a dissociation technique to float above their timelines, and then release the emotion from various events.

Emma mentioned Tony Robbins who apparently has been a self help, personal development guru for 4 decades and well known in the US. Emma dropped his name to make clear that both Tony Robbins and her were taught by the same personal mentor, Tad James, one of the original group of NLPers.

Emma’s bio then describes Emma teaching advanced NLP.

• Emma …”teaching advanced NLP and emotional intelligence programs to corporate executive and leadership teams to take them to the next level”. This was at the Department of Aviation at McCarran Airport.

The bio then says that Emma believes in the Law of Attraction and manifestation.

• “Emma… is an avid believer in using the Law of Attraction and quantum physics to manifest the life of your dreams and loves teaching others how to use these tools in everyday life.

In the interview she said that she realised the power of manifestation and the law of attraction and “started, kind of realizing the power of manifestation, the law of attraction, and just what can happen when, when you step out, when you start asking questions, connecting with people, and manifesting, um, right?”

“Manifestation” is a New Age technique perhaps made most popular by a book called The Secret by Rhonda Byrne. The New Age movement is set up and controlled by the cabal /luciferian brotherhood. Many say that manifestation edges over into magikal techniques.

GAB

On social media site GAB, Emma described herself as 3 things. Dog Mommy, Hypnosis / NLP and Proud American and she joined in Dec 2020. That shows the importance to which she placed her NLP and hypnosis training. There is also a one eye photo there as well.

Summary of Emma’s Descriptions of her NLP Training.

A brief summary of Emma’s descriptions of her training is this. It only includes information I have obtained via twitterX. I have done none of the primary research and it only includes some of Emma’s social media and tweets.

• Neurolinguistic Programming & Hypnosis. I’m actually a Master Practitioner of both. Trained under the brilliant and late Tad James - one of the pioneers of NLP and hypnosis academia & application. The “Elite” use language against you. They are also Master Practitioners”.

• ”My training is in hypnosis”

• “I’m a Master Practitioner in hypnosis / NLP for 6 years now. In the training, they stuck to teaching all the positive applications. I’ve been learning the applications in how it’s used abusively over the past couple years…”

• “…but i’m actually a master practitioner of hypnosis”

• Master Practitioner of NLP, Hypnosis, and Time Line Therapy from one of Tony Robbins personal mentors in Las Vegas, NV, Tad James at the Tad James Company in 2015.

• Emma …teaching advanced NLP

• Emma… is an avid believer in using the Law of Attraction and quantum physics to manifest the life of your dreams and loves teaching others how to use these tools

• GAB - Dog Mommy, Hypnosis /NLP and Proud American

From this information it is clear that Emma has quite deliberately told the public several times that she is well qualified in NLP. She has been a Master Practitioner in hypnosis for 6 years in 2021, so by 2025 it is 10 years, with at least 4 possibly 6 learning the negative applications.

Emma said that she is on the same Master Practitioner level as the elites and that she was trained by one of the original NLPers Tad James, who also taught self help guru Tony Robbins. She taught advanced NLP and was a Master Practitioner of Time Line Therapy, an advanced Technique of NLP.

These were all Emma’s words of how she described her own training.

This article is now getting long, so I will stop here and the second part will address Emma’s answers when she was being questioned about her NLP training.

Posts on Cathy O’Brien.

• Cathy O’Brien 1 Where is Cathy O’Brien’s daughter, Kelly? Cathy, Kelly and Shaela [COB1]

• Cathy O’Brien 2 - Was Mark Phillips Cathy’s Handler? Summary [COB2]

• Cathy O’Brien 3 - Was Mark Phillips Mind Controlled? [COB3]

• Cathy O’Brien 4 - The Magikal Connections to TRANCE Formation [COB4]

• Cathy O’Brien 5 - Dana [COB5]

• Cathy O’Brien 6 - XKelly’s Appeal to Cathy [COB6]

• Cathy O’Brien 8 - Nose Dripping Full Article [COB8]

• Cathy O’Brien 9 - Is a Nasal Lobotomy far fetched? [COB9]

• Cathy O’Brien 10 - Jason Shurka Interview with Ray about Cathy and Kelly [COB10]

• Cathy O’Brien 11 - Mark Phillips Death [fb32523]

Older Posts on Cathy O’Brien

• 2015 Apr foxblog1 Trance Formation of America – Cathy O’Brien and Mark Phillips [3]

• 2015 Apr foxblog1 Access Denied. For reasons of national security. Cathy O’Brien and Mark Phillips [2]

• 2017 Apr 2 foxblog1 A Most Dangerous Game – Human Hunting [4]

Posts on Mark Phillips.

• Mark Phillips 1 - Was he Cathy O’Brien’s Handler? Ray Bilger and Janus [MP1]

• Mark Phillips 2 - Was he Cathy O’Brien’s Handler? Jon Gentry [MP2]

• Mark Phillips 3 - Was he Cathy O’Brien’s Handler? Brice Taylor [MP3]

• Mark Phillips 4 - Was he Cathy O’Brien’s Handler? Kathleen Sullivan [MP4]

• Mark Phillips 5 - The Knights of Malta [fb32515]

• Cathy O’Brien 2 - Was Mark Phillips Cathy’s Handler? Summary [COB2]

• Cathy O’Brien 3 - Was Mark Phillips Mind Controlled? [COB3]

• Cathy O’Brien 11 - Mark Phillips Death [fb32523]

Thread on Cathy and Mark Thread on Cathy and Mark https://x.com/foxblog3/status/1885689143520330111 [thread]

Links

[g] Grok

[1] Arete Syndicate https://aretesyndicate.com/pages/enrollment

[2] 24 Jul 2020 Culture & Cannabis Podcast: Episode #054 | Emma Pietrzak (2020)

“Some people don’t know this about me, but I’m actually a master practitioner of hypnosis. And that’s how I actually got into ‘conspiracy theories,’ because after learning about hypnosis, you learn about how the media, the government, mass hypnotizes society.” approx at 9 mins

[3] Triggered: NLP An Inside Perspective https://trance-formation.com/triggered-nlp-an-inside-perspective/

[3a] archive https://web.archive.org/web/20250213034504/https://trance-formation.com/triggered-nlp-an-inside-perspective/

[4] Nov 12 Veronica Swift Conference Concerns https://veronicaswiftblog.substack.com/p/conference-concerns #conferences

[5] The Society of NLP The Past Story https://thesocietyofnlp.org/about-us/past-the-story-of-nlp/

[6] 2020 Culture & Cannabis Podcast Episode #054 Emma Pietrzak hypnosis start https://odysee.com/@FoxesAmazingChannel:8/Culture---Cannabis-Podcast-Episode--054-_-Emma-Pietrzak:e?r=ASNacMqJn9PHwgsU83aGnkUVdCoxi9Fv&t=553

[131] foxblog3 Fiona Barnett Links Summary

Appendix 1 Some Context for a couple of Tweets

Appendix 2 Time Line Therapy / Timeline Therapy Grok

Client floats above their timeline - dissociation.

Appendix 3 Interview Highlights with Dr. Dorian.

and that’s where I started, kind of realizing the power of manifestation, the law of attraction, and just what can happen when, when you step out, when you start asking questions, connecting with people, and manifesting, um, right?

a nano emulsion technology where the product kicks in hard and fast in 10 minutes or less, and just like a regular beer, it leaves your body.

so I could read Emma’s bio, and she sent me an awesome bio to read. I mean, it reads like a book. It’s incredible, but I think it’s better to discuss her life through this bio.

as long as I’m working under integrity,

And for the last four years, my amazing CEO, Michael Hayford,

The whole point of nanoemulsions is to make things cross biological barriers (skin, gut, blood–brain barrier) much better. If the active ingredient itself is toxic or questionable, the risk is amplified.Nanoemulsion technology is not toxic by itself, but it is inherently risk-escalating.

The technology itself creates a new exposure scenario that simply did not exist before.

Appendix 4 Dr. Darian Interview Shownotes

Emma went on to earn her degree in Exercise Science and began her journey through health and wellness as a personal trainer. In March of 2009, Emma uprooted from her small town and moved to Las Vegas with a one-way ticket, $200, and an impossible dream to positively impact the world through health and wellness. She began her work at the Professional Fitness Institute (PFI) in Las Vegas where she worked closely with the National Strength and Conditioning Association (NSCA). Working at PFI gave Emma the opportunity to mentor and worked with, alongside and for some of the top professionals, speakers, celebrities, and leaders in the health, wellness and fitness industry and it was from there that she gained opportunities in Vegas to work at multiple world-renowned residential fitness facilities and spas. Eventually, this led her down different paths in wellness including being the Assistant Director at DragonRidge Country Club as well as helping open two CrossFit gyms when the trend was brand new. Feeling like there was more to be desired to connect the brain and body, Emma became one of the first Level 3 Fascial Stretch Therapists in the world in order to understand how our emotions effect our physical body, and then went on to become a Master Practitioner of NLP, Hypnosis, and Time Line Therapy from one of Tony Robbins personal mentors in Las Vegas, NV, Tad James at the Tad James Company in 2015. Emma has worked with many corporations including the Gay and Lesbian Center of Nevada as well as the Department of Aviation at McCarran Airport teaching advanced NLP and emotional intelligence programs to corporate executive and leadership teams to take them to the next level. She is an avid believer in using the Law of Attraction and quantum physics to manifest the life of your dreams and loves teaching others how to use these tools in everyday life. During all these years, many things changed, but one thing stayed consistent – cannabis remained a part of her lifestyle. When the cannabis industry began to emerge in Las Vegas, Emma decided to quit the safety of working for Corporate America and went on to push herself into one of the first cannabis start-ups in Nevada - Silver State Wellness. Starting at $12/hour as the company’s (and state’s!) first brand ambassador, she grew into a sales role less than a year later, proved her value in the company through cultivating one of Nevada’s most successful sales teams, and 3 years and counting in the company, Emma is now part-owner of Silver State Wellness which has partners she helped bring to the NYSE such as Dixie Brands out of CO, Mindy’s Edibles out of IL, as well as world’s first cannabis beer to come to the market, Two Roots Brewing Company, as well as Nevada’s #1 selling CBD company, Baskin Essentials, which are both fully owned and integrated under her company’s licenses. Emma is a growing leader in the cannabis industry who is passionate about others the path to mental, emotional, spiritual and physical wellness through the utilization of plant medicine, the Universal Laws of Attraction and Energy, and quantum physics. -Degree in Exercise Science -Master Practitioner of NLP, Hypnosis and Time Line Therapy® - Certified Fascial Stretch Specialist (CFSS) -Rocktape Level 2 Certified Provider -Former personal trainer through the NSCA https://www.instagram.com/theemmapreneur/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1623435137 Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/dr-ds-social-network/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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