Moch Mob Hate 6 - Hating on Survivor Cisco Wheeler [SSASH6]
Introduction
This is yet another example of the Moch mob - Sarah Moch’s Telegram group hating on a survivor. This is the sixth survivor I have written about so far that they have done this to. They hate in plain sight. Imagine what they are like in private!
Ignorance, ad hominem comments and insults prevail when the Moch mob discuss a survivor. It is a well established pattern. There is almost never any respect for survivors. You can count on one hand the survivors that the Moch mob even agree are survivors.
In this post the baying mob target the well thought of survivor Cisco Wheeler, who has written invaluable books about the system, programming and mind control, which many have learned a great deal from. Quite obviously the Moch mob’s minds are closed to learning about survivors.
Their vile comments say much more about the individuals in the Moch mob than they do about the particular survivor they are hating on.
How do they sleep at night?
Insults and Ad Hominem Attacks about Cisco
According to Sarah Moch and others “Cisco is one creepy lady”…
Elaine describes her as “Cisco Wheeler and Dealer”…
Elaine McCarty, Paula Blades and Sarah Moch think that is hilarious.
Cindy Adams thinks Cisco is still part of the evil…
“I don’t believe in all that crap Cisco says either as far as my understanding Cisco was never able to be deprogrammed she’s still part of the evil” and she thinks “Crisco a joke name”
Cindy Adams believes that Cisco was never deprogrammed and still evil, thereby condemning many many survivors.
Meredith chimes in…
“The more I think about it, the more Cisco creeps me out” to agreement from Paula Blades of course.
Elaine blurts out that “everyone knows Cisco Wheeler and Fritz are frauds. I think the good guys have known that for a long time”…
The group is almost always devoid of any evidence. It is enough for a group member to state that a survivor is a fraud and to portray themselves on the side of the “good guys” and then give their opinion, usually to the agreement of the mob. They don’t even bother to read the extensive information and books that a survivor has produced.
Elaine describes Cisco as a “scam artist”…
Fundraiser for Cisco - the mob therefore say they can immediately add that to the “fraudulent fundraiser file”…
Again no evidence required, just opinion based upon ignorance.
Moch Mob Dissing Cisco
When they are not making ad hominem attacks or using insults, the group amuse themselves by dissing survivors stories, with prejudiced opinion, little to no evidence and despite their almost total ignorance of the system and survivors.
Cisco “fought them every step of the way except when stuff like Satan marrying a 4 year old was happening”, according to the Moch mob.
Yet again the Moch mob show their ignorance of the system by expecting Cisco to fight the system in the middle of a Marriage to the Beast ritual. Doing what the Moch mob want would have probably resulted in many deaths perhaps including Cisco’s own. Blissful ignorance from the Moch mob yet again but it does not stop them constantly commenting ignorantly in public.
AW doubts Cisco’s story on the basis that Cisco, as she says a two month premature baby was put in a cardboard box and put in the oven…
Perhaps AW is only aware of central heating, not available in Cisco’s day. AW in his / her wisdom finds this absurd and uneducated. However even today it is not uncommon to put injured birds or animals in the open heater draw of a range oven. It would seem sensible that a premature baby might benefit from some gentle direct heat.
When Cisco was brought up, and there were no car child locks or seatbelts / child seats in cars, it was not uncommon for children to occasionally get out of a car whilst moving. Of course it’s the lucky ones who survive who are alive to tell the tale. AW can not even contemplate that it might happen and calls it “total nonsense”.
AW goes on… and appears not to believe that Cisco was manipulated in the womb, despite the fact that most bloodline are…
AW even finds it hard to believe that survivors recover memories later. They question everything, in their ignorance.
All their questions show profound ignorance of what happens in the system, it gets boring. AW questions the suicide programming.
Bailey, knows next to nothing about Cisco, mixes up his aliases, shows his ignorance yet again and tries to project a bad impression by innuendo, one of the propaganda techniques he uses quite often.
Sarah, who knows virtually nothing about the system suddenly thinks she is an expert on Cisco.
“I definitely think so. She told many lies to try to corroborate Jessie’s story, that we know for a fact isn’t true”.
Sarah Moch calls Cisco a “fake”, she provides no proof as usual.
Now it’s Elaine’s turn to pontificate without evidence…
“…everyone knows Cisco Wheeler and Fritz are frauds. I think the good guys have known that for a long time”
No proof, no evidence, just ignorant assertion from Elaine.
John’s contribution…
“Cisco helped Fritz tell a great story”
Paula Blades says she has a friend who “debunked” Fritz’s bloodline theory, but of course does not produce that information…
More from Paula…
Propaganda Blades says “his 13 illuminati bloodlines book is 100% inaccurate”. The Moch cult regularly go overboard in their absolutes. There is rarely any nuance, they think they are always 100% right, everyone else always 100% wrong. Rarely any evidence, nearly always simplistic black and white.
Fritz’s Bloodline book was ground breaking, especially for the time it was written and exposed some major families. The black Nobility families may be higher up, but to dismiss Fritz’s book as “debunked” is desperate.
Sarah (red rose symbolism!) buys William Cooper’s book Behold a Pale Horse to see if Cisco whose book is called Behold a White Horse stole any details from it…
Sarah will have been disappointed. Her hopes of finding some juicy stolen details dashed by the different nature of the two books. Whoops. Sarah’s ignorance showing again.
Paula chimes “Cisco just needed her roof fixed and needed some extra cash”. Perhaps Paula knows her own tricks best?
You can tell Meredith knows virtually nothing about Cisco, as she has only just found out that Cisco was a programmer… woeful ignorance, but that never stops the Moch mob spreading their hate…
Paula, always up for a bit of propaganda…
She asks “Didn’t we prove that Cisco Wheeler lied about Jessie?”
Gossip, insults, innuendo and ignorance do not add up to proof.
In the best propaganda tradition though Sarah is always up for a bit of unevidenced repetition about lying…
“Ciscos [sic] claims she knew Jessie when Jessie was a child. That is a lie.”
AW - the Expert on Cisco!
Moch boasts about an “awesome researcher” who has dug up “solid research” on Cisco that shows “Cisco is also lying about her story”.
Spoiler - they haven’t.
She continues… “Cisco never knew Jessie as a child. That is a huge lie in itself.”
They have found a possible anomaly that they perceive to be solid evidence, that they proceed to then make absurd unevidenced conclusions from. It will be discussed later.
The “awesome researcher” AW is not interested in researching Cisco’s story, just like they are not interested in any survivors story…
AW, “ I don’t want to dive into Cisco other than doing research to see how her story lines up / doesn’t with Jessie’s.”
Since to my knowledge, they have never posted anything ever that counters their anti-Jessie message, then it is probably safe to say that AW is only skimming through any of Cisco’s books to find perceived discrepancies with Jessie’s story, so that they can twist and leverage that.
AW believes that Jessie was not raised in the cult (with zero evidence) and with that assumption therefore then believes Cisco is lying about being involved with Jessie…
AW admits she does not know about the rest of Cisco’s story.
AW realises her own version of events does not even stack up on her own terms...
AW boasts about her vast research!…
“I don’t personally believe, based on my vast research, that Jessie Czebotar was in the occult as a child.”
No evidence, no comparison with other survivors, no knowledge of the system, no genealogy but she thinks she has done “vast research”.
“Jessie did study Cisco and other SRA survivors, etc,” .
Well slap me sideways, survivors do read other survivors stories to try to understand and validate their own experiences. They were not allowed to talk about their experiences and if they tried their experiences were ignored / denied / ridiculed. Now their experiences are being denied and ridiculed by people as ignorant as the Moch mob, inevitably acting as a disincentive to other survivors to come forward. It is not sinister to read other survivors stories - the Moch cult should try it sometime and learn for a change.
AW said that Jessie “extrapolated / expounded / added / twisted” . Of course not one iota of proof is provided as to even one example of how Jessie has “extrapolated / expounded / added / twisted” Cisco’s testimony. Where are the examples? Put them side by side and let people judge. Why do they never provide a comprehensive list of the examples where Jessie is supposed to have extrapolated, expounded, added or twisted rather than just provide an unevidenced soundbite? This sort of comment is dangerous innuendo and misleads others and without evidence to back it up, shows negligence.
The “Liberated from Satan” Assumption about Cisco
AW thinks she has spotted an anomaly…
Now we will get to what AW and the Moch mob think is their killer info…
AW describes it as a “Foreward” [sic] from Cisco’s book.
In my copy of Cisco’s book it is the last page. So it des not appear to be a Foreword or even a “Foreward” as AW calls it. From that incorrect description by AW it may be fair to say that AW has not read the book. Like quite a bit of their information that the Moch mob claim is their research, it was gifted to the group, this time by temporary member SGTN2.
It does raise the question yet again how much the Moch group are being manipulated by others. How many times has this happened? It would be quite easy to do so, as they have one objective - to bash Jessie, and their confirmation bias is there for all to see and easy to take advantage of.
This page was provided by SGTN… the page, headed About the Author, was written by Mary Bay, a friend of Cisco’s. The relevant section is in this screenshot…
This is the relevant part…
At the age of two and a half Cisco was dedicated to the organisation, and for the next 28 years she managed to survive this hell on earth and then a miracle happened and “Cisco was liberated from Satan’s grasp by Yahshua Messiah’s grace”.
AW thinks that it means that there is a time discrepancy between Cisco’s liberation and Jessie being in the system.
AW never explains what she thinks is meant by “Cisco was liberated from Satan’s grasp by Yahshua Messiah’s grace”'.
AW presumably thinks it means something along the lines that Cisco was liberated from the satanic system completely and stayed out of the system. However that is supposition.
What was meant by the “liberated from satan” statement, even if that story is absolutely correct is impossible to guess, but there are certainly plausible explanations other than what AW supposes. Two that spring to mind are Yahshua Messiah could have entered Cisco’s life but she only was fully able to leave the system later or Cisco could have left the system but been brought back, reprogrammed before escaping again. eg Svali, was brought back in 3 or 4 times.
AW never explains what she thinks is meant by “liberated” and she certainly produces no evidence for whatever interpretation she favours. However AW then extrapolated / expounded / added / twisted all sorts of wild statements from this information that Jessie and Cisco did not know each other and “a very easy debunking of Cisco in regard to Jessie”…
They rarely present evidence, they just gossip then conclude that they have somehow proven something.
Simplistic Scenarios
As seen previously with the Moch mob, they appear mentally to only be able to deal with simplistic binary or black or white scenarios. When information is provided that contradicts their simple mental model they blow a fuse, ignore it and revert to their ultra simplistic Jessie has never been in the system and everything she says is 100% untrue, as well as ad hominem comments and insults. They simply cannot mentally cope.
They can cope with A is bad, A knows B and so B must be bad.
eg Meredith “Considering Jessie is 100% BS, we can conclude Cisco is a liar.” Facts, logic and analysis are not strong points of the Moch mob even in this.
eg AW “I believe Jessie was not raised in the occult. Therefore, I believe Cisco is lying about being involved with Jessie in the occult.”
Meredith “This would make Cisco a fake too”
But if a complication is added eg C thinks A is bad but B is good, then that gives the Moch mob cognitive dissonance. They cannot cope…
“something seems off” …
AW doesn’t even like to think about it… it’s all about what she “believes”
“Cisco being associated with Jessie completely discredits Cisco, even if Gina believes Cisco is a survivor”
The cognitive dissonance happens often, poor Elaine…
This helps explain why the Moch mob take absurd positions because they cannot cope with anything but the simplistic.
Discussion
The Moch mob feel entitled to hate on survivors who have been brave enough to surmount all obstacles and tell their stories, only to be ridiculed and disbelieved by a bunch of ignorati - so utterly arrogant in their ignorance. Whatever they think is automatically correct in their view, and everyone else is wrong. Whatever they have not experienced they can never believe to have happened, apparently. They do not care. This mob have one goal - to diss Jessie and all associated with her, irrespective of facts and truth.
The Moch mob hate on Cisco, as they desperately want to diss Jessie. They diss Cisco as she is associated with Jessie but they will not even read Cisco’s books, one of the best resources on the system, except to scan for potential discrepancies. Any perceived discrepancy, often only perceived through ignorance, assumes massive importance in their eyes.
The Moch mob are ignorant of survivors, ignorant of the system and on top of that Moch’s mob are simplistic. Much survivor testimony appears fantastical in their eyes and so dismiss it because it is outwith their own experience. But much of survivors testimony is fantastical and outside of most people’s experience and even imagination. The Moch mob appear to have no capacity to suspend disbelief and consider many survivors stories, which often corroborate and complement each other. Their continued mockery and hatred of survivors is not only morally wrong but inaccurate and will inevitably result in less survivors coming forward to face their ludicrous hostility, harassment, stalking, insults and abuse.
Yet again a piece of evidence that they think is key was provided from outside the group, perhaps knowing full well how the group would treat it. How much are they being manipulated? They know next to nothing on Cisco but are quite prepared to mock and diss her publicly. This they do to many survivors, here are some other survivors that I have had time to write on…
Moch Mob Hate 1- Hating on Survivor X [SSASH1]
Moch Mob Hate 2 - Paula Blades Hating on Survivor Svali [SSASH2]
Moch Mob Hate 3- Hating on Survivor Y [SSASH3]
Moch Mob Hate 4 -Hating on Whistleblower Tracy Remington [SSASH4]
Moch Mob Hate 5 - Hating on Survivor Priscilla’s Testimony [SSASH5]
Scarlet Sage Index [SSI]
The sad thing is that Sarah Moch and her group refuse to learn about survivors, or the system. If they did many of their objections to Jessie would fall as being complementary to other survivors. Perhaps that is what they are afraid of?
Any corrections, or information on the Moch mob, email me scarletsagegorwss101@proton.me
foxblog3 substack [fb3]
foxblog2 current wordpress blog [fb2]
foxblog1 old wordpress, some great posts [fb1]
Background
I have been attacked by various members of the Bailey / Moch mob for nearly 3 years. I did not respond. That appears to have allowed or encouraged them to think that they can get away with their false attacks, lies, libels and innuendo. Sarah Moch was asked to apologise and correct her lies in early 2023. She chose not to do so, and she continued her lies and still continues spreading her hateful lies.
The Moch mob’s lies have resulted in me and others being intimidated, harassed, stalked and threatened. Sarah Moch gave those lies and disinformation to others, which has given them a false sense of what is true and what is lies. They have used that disinformation to threaten people. That is serious. If anything happens to me, or the others that have been threatened, then Sarah Moch, Paula Blades and George Bailey need to be investigated. So too needing investigating, if anything happens to me, is the “warrior” Grey Area Monarch (various sock puppet accounts) who demands that I take my blog down. He then harasses, threatens, stalks and lies. There are also those who deliberately covered up his threats. I am now in the process of correcting this whole mobs lies. When are they going to correct their lies and apologise?
Their ad hominem attacks, insults, disinformation, misinformation and lies have created a toxic atmosphere in which it is impossible to reasonably discuss issues around Jessie and the system. The Moch mob’s certainty that Jessie is not from bloodline or brought up in the system is in inverse proportion to their knowledge of the brotherhood, the illuminati, the occult, the symbolism, ritual abuse, survivors stories, magik or anything to do with the system. They claim to have researched her family tree. If Jessie is not bloodline nor from the system they need to publish that information to prove their claims or apologise.
This blog is not about defending Jessie, it is about correcting the lies and libels from the Moch mob. Many of those lies are about Jessie, and provably false. I blogged about Jessie’s story in 2020 and plainly still know more about aspects of her story than Moch’s kindergarten level knowledge. Other Moch mob lies are about me and others who write or talk genuinely about the system.
It has become clear that it is not only necessary to correct the lies of Sarah Moch, Paula Blades, George Bailey and AW for my own safety but for the sake of survivors, whistleblowers and survivor advocates. They mock survivors, Grey Area Monarch believes their lies and he attacks survivors, whistleblowers and advocates with proven records, farcically falsely claiming to represent “the survivor community” whilst deliberately dividing survivors.
The toxic atmosphere that they have created in attacking not just Jessie but other survivors is obviously damaging to survivors coming forward and telling their experiences. Do they not care, or is this their real intention?
Any corrections, or information on the Moch mob, email me scarletsagegorwss101@proton.me