Bailey and the Moch Mob Diss Cisco
Introduction
Bailey has a small cult fan club, “The Empty Vessels” which overlaps with Moch mob mean girls. It’s well known that none of them know much about the system, but they see fit to criticise survivors from the system in a most casual and heartless way. Some comments have been covered in a previous post, Moch Mob Hate 6 Hating on Survivor Cisco Wheeler, [SSASH6] but it is time to update my post on Bailey and the Moch mob attacking Cisco.
George Bailey
It has been now established beyond any doubt that George Bailey attacked survivor Cisco Wheeler using a “satanic panic” website, see Bailie uses "Satanic Panic" hoax site to attack Cisco Wheeler [SSBB17]. Bailey posted a note and link on his blog Outright Turds, [21a], which he claimed was an “Excellent unmasking of Cisco Wheeler at Swallowing The Camel. Lots of loose ends and contradictions in her story”.
Bailey bizarrely tried to deny he had done so, but dismally failed due to the obvious evidence, despite his absurd protestations, Where's the Receipts? George Bailey 3 - Cisco Wheeler [SSBBR3] and yet again George Bailey Triples Down on Cisco Wheeler Attack Lies [SSBB24]. It does show just what lengths Bailey is prepared to go to, piling more lies upon old lies to con his readers and followers.
Bailey in the past had joined the Moch mob group for a while. Perhaps it was a bit amateurish even for him and he quickly left, to concentrate on his propaganda. Out of all the thousands of interesting points that Cisco has revealed about mind control programming, Bailey chooses to ignore them and cast doubt on Cisco’s aliases, which are essential when trying to escape the brotherhood. What cold behaviour.
It is quite obvious where Bailey found this information. He used the satanic panic hoax site that disses survivors, mind control, and the existence of widespread satanism, [5a].
Of course some of the information that he recycled, unsourced to the Moch Mob group is not accurate, but that is par for the course for Bailey.
Bailey also used a “thumbs up” emoji on Sarah Mochs anti-survivor group to a post saying that “Cisco has the depth of a puddle”.
Note that Sarah Moch, SM, also emojied. Sarah Moch was grinning at that comment against Cisco as well. She is the owner of the group, and she not only allows the attacks on survivor Cisco on her group, but encourages them.
Bailey again works by innuendo saying that Cisco has never stated that she was ever Jessie’s teacher.
Of course when Cisco did, there was still criticism, as it’s not about the truth it’s about a propaganda agenda for Bailey and others. For posts on Bailey, see Index of Posts on George Bailey [SSBB20].
Meredith
“The more I think about it, the more Cisco creeps me out”.
Cisco “creeps her out”. Shallow stuff from Meredith, especially after all that thought. Meredith has said she has a counter terrorism degree and thought that Sarah would make a good intel analyst! Seriously! Perhaps her judgement is not the best. It took Meredith a while to learn that Cisco had even been a programmer!
She said “Wow new keyword for me there was she was also a programmer!”. Oh dear. You really would think that they should research thoroughly before feeling the necessity to comment in public groups about people that they know virtually nothing about.
Mr. Dior
Mr. Dior tweeted an article about “Concerns over Cisco Wheelers credibility”. Assuming at first blush that he authored the article, then it is a strange one talking about the “conspiracy community” and Cisco Wheeler as though her story was conspiracy. Does he not believe that she was a survivor of mind control and ritual abuse despite all the evidence from her books? Has Dior read Cisco’s books and seen her collages?
Mr Dior mentions that there were new allegations suggesting that her story may be fabricated, but he does not mention a source nor what the allegations are, and he links it all to conspiracy. Evidence free, his article is nearly a year old now and he still has not followed up with any evidence. It could even be a Grok article having been prompted to review some gossip from the Moch mob.
It was no surprise that George Bailey reposted the evidence free article.
Gossip and propaganda from DiorNoNews.
Elaine McCarty
Elaine said Cisco Wheeler was a scam artist.
and called her “Cisco Wheeler and Dealer”.
Elaine’s opinion is that “everyone knows Cisco Wheeler and Fritz are frauds” and were “exposed years ago”, and the “good guys have known that for a long time”.
Of course no details or evidence.
Paula Blades
Paula was laughing at the last comment. She loves to knock mind controlled survivors. Disdainful and dismissive best describes her treatment of mind controlled survivors. Here Paula attacks Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler. First she questions Fritz Springemeier and she has said many times that a person she knows found discrepancies in his bloodline series, but as here Blades does not provide the source. She then posts other supposed discrepancies.
Paula said “I question her simply because she is a “programmed programmer!”, and she says that she has retired military friends who say “you can never fully trust intelligence from MK Ultra victims”.
Paula appears not to realise that many intelligence operatives are mind controlled and they are often trusted above other sources precisely because they are controlled. Paula has often been wrong with her information from her “intel peeps” some of which appear rogue, some seem to be just to be using her as a poodle.
Moch Intel 1 - What is Moch Mob's Relationship with Intel? Paula C Blades [SSMI1]
Moch Intel 2 - Moch Mob Intel Coven... [SSMI2]
Moch Intel 3 Operation Able Danger [SSMI3]
Paula also says “you are either completely honest or you are not, PERIOD. THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN!!!”
The problem is Paula is not honest.
Paula has been proven to lie twice about Jessie
Paula fabricated that Jessie plagiarised Svali, Propaganda Paula 2 Svali Plagiarism Lies [SSPP2]
Paula fabricated that Jessie plagiarised Cathy O’Brien Propaganda Paula Lies Again - Human Hunting [SSPP6].
Paula must be counted as dishonest, hoist on her own petard. She is surrounded by the Moch mob, an echo chamber of lies, disinformation and misinformation like her won. There are more posts about Paula here - Index of Posts about Paula Blades, [SSPPIn].
57117 Adams
Adams accused Cisco as still being part of the evil, because it is her “understanding” that ”Cisco was never able to be deprogramed she’s still part of the evil”.
Judging Adams by her own words, then if it is true that any survivor who was not able to be deprogrammed is part of the evil then equally that would apply to members of her own family.
“Superman” John
John is known for previously attacking another survivor also a member of the Moch mob group, Moch Mob Hate 3 Hating on Survivor Y, [SSASH3]. John says that “Cisco helped Fritz tell a great story”, implying it was not true.
John does not believe many survivors. Eventually even the Moch mob tired of his abuse and kicked him out due to his argumentative nature.
Shelly Durden
Shelly is not known for her analysis, but is known for her trolling and “rent a gob” opinions. Shelly gives her opinion, “I don’t believe Cisco”.
Even Sarah Moch said that Shelly posted “senseless” posts and that she said “blah blah blah over and over again”. Bailey and AW / Brandie agreed. That was before she joined up with the Moch mob!
Clearly that is a marriage of convenience and they all think Shelly is a troll.
Sarah Moch
Paula Blades and Sarah Moch noticed the similarity between Bill Cooper’s book title “Behold a Pale Horse” and Cisco’s book “Behold a White Horse”. Sarah’s immediate thought is to “see if Cisco stole any details”. This is an indictment on how Sarah thinks, and what her agenda is.
Note how Meredith and Paula Blades give this comment flaming emojis. It is an indication of how little they knew if they have not read Bill Cooper’s book already if they had any interest in how the deep state works. Bill used to photocopy information and spread it round before the internet, his work is essential reading about the NWO, Bill being one of the first whistleblowers. Despite their similar titles, the books were totally different with Cisco’s book is mainly spiritual. Sarah was thwarted again in her attempts to attack survivors and find differences and see what “Cisco stole”.
Sarah has liked many of the other posts dissing Cisco. I will not point them all out , and she changes her thumbnail, so they are not all obvious. If you see SM then that it her, PB is Paula Blades and A is AW / Brandie.
Sarah Moch appears unable to make intelligent or accurate analysis or draw the right conclusions from any information that she has. Her conclusion is that Cisco was lying when she knew Jessie as a child. “Cisco’s claims she knew Jessie when she was a child. That is a lie.”
That statement relies on what Sarah says is an “awesome researcher” and then she goes on a bit of a rant that “Cisco is also lying about her story” and knowing Jessie as a child.
Sarah and Brandie and the rest know so little about the system that it is impossible to correct all their mistakes in depth, but just in the paragraph above Sarah and Brandie confuse…
Mother of Darkness programming and alters with real life Mothers of Darkness
Bride of Satan and Marriage to the Beast rituals
Re Photo see Jessie, Me and that Photo [SSJ1]
The “awesome researcher“ is apparently AW / BrandieMills31. She keeps embarrassing herself with her lack of knowledge about the system.
BrandieMills31 / AW
So now we come to BrandieMill31 / AW. Moch’s assessment of an “awesome researcher” is not the experience that many have of Brandie. She is even confused over the simple concepts…
Brandie and Bailey's Confusion over Mother of Darkness Castle [SSBB25]
Brandie Confuses Redaction and Stealth Editing [SSBr7].
Furthermore Brandie provably lies…
and Brandie has a history of attacking survivors…
Moch Mob Hate 5 Hating on Survivor Priscilla’s Testimony [SSASH5]
Moch Mob Hate 6 Hating on Survivor Cisco Wheeler, [SSASH6]
Moch Mob Hate 4 Hating on Whistleblower Tracy Remington [SSASH4]
Snitch and Ditch 2 Part 1 - The Moch Mob Turn on Jessie's Mother [SSSD2a]. A
Snitch and Ditch 2 Part 2 - Sarah Prepares the Ambush of Mary [SSSD2b].
Snitch Ditch 2 Part 3 The Moch Mob Stab Mary in the Back [SSSD2c].
Snitch and Ditch 2 Part 4 - Who attacked Mary on the Video Premiere? [SSSD2d]
Brandie has also used several sock puppets accounts [SSBrIn], of which these are a few.
Brandie chooses not to educate herself about the system. She has even said that she was not interested about Cisco’s story, and that she just wanted to find discrepancies between Jessie’s story and Cisco’s, “I don’t want to dive into Cisco other than doing research to see how her story lines up / doesn’t with Jessie’s”.
It’s not difficult to find differences between two survivors stories, Survivors - Discrepancies, Contradictions, Inconsistencies and Loose Ends Part 1 [fb32471]. They were children, they have different experiences, the cult has abused them with drugs, torture and mind control dissociation, they have been deliberately deceived and betrayed Lucifer and Luciferians – Masters of Deception [115]. Some people decide to attack the survivors rather than the perpetrators and they do not seem bothered about the abuses that the cult perpetrate upon innocent children. Odd.
If you want to find genuine differences you can, if you are ignorant about what is being talked about and also you want to twist statements to your own agenda, then you can find many more “apparent” discrepancies. Why does Brandie fight against survivors, not for survivors against perpetrators?
Brandie, in the same superficial vein as some of the others thought it was “weird” and “interesting” that Crisco spelling was so close to Cisco, with Sarah Moch agreeing.
Paula again calls out Fritz’s “bloodline theory”, whatever she means by that, and says her friend who is a “true historian” has debunked it. No evidence produced again.
Then Brandie / AW immediately accepts what Paula says without evidence, and casts doubt upon anyone who has got information about the 13 bloodlines from Cisco and Fritz. This is the echo chamber at work, repeating gossip without evidence.
Here Brandie tries to find differences between Cisco’s testimony and Jessie’s. She tries to say that Jessie was always saying they were trying to kill her but that Cisco says differently.
Firstly note that Brandie is not outraged that a child was murdered by the illuminati. She doesn’t even mention that, she is only concerned about trying to point out an apparent difference between what Jessie said and what Cisco said.
Both Cisco and Jessie are hierarchy and not “expendables”. The very same paragraph where Brandie is trying to say that Cisco says something differently to Jessie, she starts with “What I failed to understand as a child, with a child’s mind”. In other words Cisco did think as a child that they could kill her, just as Jessie did.
It is only when you reconstruct childhood experiences as an adult, that you realise you might have been less in danger than you thought at the time. Even then it is difficult to believe that they were not going to trying to kill you when constantly put in kill or be killed scenarios. However it is only those who live that can tell the stories.
Brandie claims to have looked into Cisco’s genealogy but could not find a connection to General Wheeler.
In Brandie’s brain this counts as Cisco’s claims “didn’t pan out” but the only conclusion that Brandie can reliably draw is that she could not prove or disprove what Cisco said. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, especially by researchers who never produce their evidence or work for others to check.
Similarly Brandie leapt to conclusions when she said that Cisco did not even meet Jessie when young. This is all based on one friend of Cisco’s who said that Cisco was “liberated from satan” on a certain date. No independent evidence was produced that the timescale was even correct nor what was meant by the term.
More on this on Moch Mob Hate 6 Hating on Survivor Cisco Wheeler [SSASH6].
“Who would have given her all this “real” information? Why should be trust her about the bloodlines?”
Brandie questions some more…
“I dont understand how it gets as far as it has… Total nonsense…”. Brandie offers no evidence, just her opinion that it is nonsense. More on this on this link, [SSASH6].
Brandie claims that “Jessie… extrapolated / expounded / added / twisted” Cisco’s story…
Brandie’s conclusion from “my vast research” which of course is not shown, is that Jessie was not brought up in the system. It is just Brandie’s opinion. She finds a disparity and then leapt to a conclusion that even if the particular disparity was proven, the conclusion is not supported.
In the next tweet Brandie says she is “tending not to believe Cisco“ and believes that Jessie used Cisco’s information and tweaked it.
Quite why Jessie would tweak it rather than make it consistent with Cisco’s is not clear, but that’s Brandie’s theory. Where is the evidence for this?
Brandie again accuses Jessie of taking Cisco’s comments about Mothers of Darkness and the Queen Mother and made up a character called “Queen Mother of Darkness” to LARP.
She provides no evidence to support that. It’s Brandie’s theory. Again Brandie accuses Jessie of using details from Cisco and making up fictitious characters.
There is no doubt that Brandie has many opinions, and no doubt in amongst all the false accusations and lies there may be some genuine discrepancies. However she then has to explain how a discrepancy can justify her conclusions. If she was to back up her opinions with evidence for these allegations, then Brandie would need to show a list of what Cisco had said, what details Jessie “had used” from Cisco, and what she had “extrapolated / expounded / added / twisted”, rather than experienced it independently in the system. Furthermore she would then have to show that no actual real positions of Mothers of Darkness exist in the system. She has done none of this since it was written about a year ago, [SSASH6].
Brandie has been promising a website / blog for years now but it never appears, the last I saw was in the “New Year”, which was months ago. Brandie prefers sniping at people who produce primary source testimony, rather than have her own theories and evidence checked. Brandie’s basic theory is that Jessie was not even brought up in the system and is not even supported by Bailey or the perpetrator Grey Area Monarch, ardent Jessie critics. For more posts on Brandie see Index of Posts about BrandieMills31 / AW [SSBrIn]
Quick Summary of Attacks from the Moch Mob about Cisco
Meredith “The more I think about it, the more Cisco creeps me out”.
Bailey “an excellent unmasking of Cisco Wheeler. Lots of loose ends and contradictions in her story”
Elaine “Cisco Wheeler and Dealer”
Elaine “Cisco Wheeler, another scam artist”
Elaine “everyone knows Cisco Wheeler and Fritz are frauds”
Adams ”Cisco was never able to be deprogramed she’s still part of the evil”
John “Cisco helped Fritz tell a great story”
MrDior “Concerns over Cisco Wheelers credibility”
Paula Blades “I question her simply because she is a “programmed programmer!”
Sarah Moch “Cisco is also lying about her story”
Shelly Durden “I don’t believe Cisco”
Brandie “Who would have given her all this “real” information? Why should be trust her about the bloodlines?”
Sarah Moch “see if Cisco stole any details”
Bailey “Cisco has the depth of a puddle”
Brandie - Cisco’s claims about General Wheeler “didn’t pan out”
Sarah Moch “Cisco’s claims she knew Jessie when she was a child. That is a lie.”
Brandie “I am tending not to believe Cisco“
Brandie “Jessie… extrapolated / expounded / added / twisted” Cisco’s story
Brandie on Cisco “I dont understand how it gets as far as it has… Total nonsense…”
Discussion
It’s not just Cisco or Jessie that Brandie or the Moch mob attack. It’s other survivors as well. Rather than support survivors and attack perpetrators they choose to find discrepancies in survivors stories from a system that they choose not to educate themselves about. It appears that they don’t want to face up to the fact that child trafficking and mind control exist on the scale that it does, and they would rather take the easy road of discrediting survivors.
This is another case where the Bailey and the Moch mob attack Cisco’s story. There there is no attempt to judge Cisco fairly, or even to read her testimony except to skim it for discrepancies. None of them have a good word to say about one of the most influential and early whistle blowers about the system and it’s mind control programming. There is only an effort to diss Cisco and to find any elements of Cisco’s story that can be twisted to be different to Jessie’s story.
Cisco’s work is fantastic for understanding programming the system. Here are just two of her books, the first a collection of collages that she made when deprogramming, and her thoughts and explanations of them, the second the book with Fritz on mind
Cisco Wheeler Book They Know Not What They Do – An Illustrated Guide To Programming Mind Control Final Part, 51 - Index and Pdf https://cathyfoxblog2.wordpress.com/2023/11/15/cisco-wheeler-51-indexes-and-pdf/
Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave https://deprogramwiki.com/programming/the-illuminati-formula-used-to-create-an-undetectable-total-mind-controlled-slave/
The overall attitude from Bailey and the Moch mob group towards Cisco is very obvious and very negative, with very little knowledge and understanding. They appear to be blinded by their own hate, bias and ignorance of the brotherhood system.
Posts on Survivors Attacked by Bailey and the Moch Mob
Moch Mob Hate 1 Hating on Survivor X [SSASH1] https://scarletsage.substack.com/publish/post/138184204 Many of the Moch mob abuse a survivors story because they made a mistake that it was Jessie’s.
Moch Mob Hate 2 Paula Blades Hating on Survivor Svali [SSASH2] Paula Blades hates on and propagandises Svali’s testimony, whilst other Moch mob members hate and mock.
Moch Mob Hate 3 Hating on Survivor Y [SSASH3] One member of the Moch mob hates on a survivor group member.
Moch Mob Hate 4 Hating on Whistleblower Tracy Remington [SSASH4] The Moch mob hate on courageous child trafficking whistleblower Tracy Remington.
Moch Mob Hate 5 Hating on Survivor Priscilla’s Testimony [SSASH5] AW / Brandie /BrandieMills31 hates and mocks Priscilla’s testimony, encouraged by the others.
Moch Mob Hate 6 Hating on Survivor Cisco Wheeler [SSASH6] The Moch mob diss Cisco Wheeler.
Paula Blades - Motivated by Hate 1 [SSPP5] Paula knocks survivor Fiona Barnett to support Craig Sawyer.
Snitch and Ditch 2 Part 1 - The Moch Mob Turn on Jessie's Mother [SSSD2a] The Mob Mob turn on survivor Mary, even though she only helped them.
Snitch and Ditch 2 Part 2 - Sarah Prepares the Ambush of Mary [SSSD2b] The Moch mob prepared the ambush of Mary.
Snitch Ditch 2 Part 3 The Moch Mob Stab Mary in the Back [SSGM2c] The Moch mob metaphoircally stabbed survivor Mary in the back, in front of friends and family.
Snitch and Ditch 2 Part 4 - Who attacked Mary on the Video Premiere? [SSGM2d] The Moch mob knew who attacked survivor Mary and circumstantial evidence int to Brandie.
Previous Posts on Cisco
[SSASH6] 2024 Apr 1 Scarlet Sage Sarah Moch's anti-Survivor, Hate Group 6 - Hating on Cisco Wheeler https://scarletsage.substack.com/p/95-sarah-mochs-anti-survivor-hate #ciscowheeler #sarahmoch #mochmob #hate #antisurvivor
Scarlet Sage Indexes
Scarlet Sage Index [SSI]
Index of Posts on the Predator Grey Area Monarch [SSGMIn]
Index of Posts on George Bailey [SSBB20]
Index of Posts about Sarah Moch [SSSMIn]
Index of Posts about Paula Blades [SSPPIn]
Index of Posts about BrandieMills31 / AW [SSBrIn]
Index of Posts about the Moch Mob hating on Survivors [ASHIn]
Summary and Index of Sarah Moch's ChildStalking [SSMS16]
Cisco’s book title could have been written for these critics.
Links
[fb32471] 2024 Sept 3 foxblog3 Survivors - Discrepancies, Contradictions, Inconsistencies and Loose Ends Part 1 https://foxyfox.substack.com/p/survivors-discrepancies-contradictions #survivors #looseends #inconsistencies #ptsd #mindcontrol #mkultra
[SSASH6] 2024 Apr 1 Scarlet Sage Sarah Moch's anti-Survivor, Hate Group 6 - Hating on Cisco Wheeler https://scarletsage.substack.com/p/95-sarah-mochs-anti-survivor-hate #ciscowheeler #sarahmoch #mochmob #hate #antisurvivor
Any corrections, or information on Bailey and the Empty Vessels, Grey Area Monarch or the Moch mob email scarletsagegorwss101@proton.me
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foxblog5 current wordpress blog [fb5]
foxblog1 old wordpress, some great posts [fb1]
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