Grey Area Operator - Flying Monkey Fallout 2

GS2 - Grey Area Operator v Stellar Round 2 2025 April Apr 16 -18

Introduction

I have combined and reworked the 2 previous articles into this post.

• Grey Area Operator Restarted Beef with his ex Flying Monkey StellarFox16 Part 1 [SSGM54]

• Grey Area Operator Restarted Beef with his ex Flying Monkey StellarFox16 Part 1a [SSGM56]

Essentially now those two posts are superfluous and this post now follows straight on from Flying Monkey Fallout 1 StellarFox16 Blocked Grey Area Monarch, [SSGM44].

It was a bit of a nightmare researching and trying to show as simply as possible, what is happening with at least 3 people who are subtweeting, replying and quote tweeting on multiple threads whilst trying to keep it chronologically understandable. I missed some subtweets and threads integral to the chronology in [SSGM54] and put them in a new post 1a [SSGM56]. That was adequate but not good enough, for what is needed. The behaviour of Grey Area Monarch needs to be crystal clear. The post is now rewritten, with all screenshots also written as text, and then analysed. Threads involved have been given specific names, so threads can be followed more easily, and a wider view context screenshot sometimes included but left small. Thus it can easily be scrolled past but enlarged and checked if needed. The posts have also been renumbered. It now gives a better overall sense of what was happening in chronologically and in context and per each thread.

It is very important to collate and record these exchanges to show how a dark predatory personality such as Grey Area Operator works. Whilst dark personalities have the same broad range of techniques and attributes, they do have their own profile and favoured tactics and their specific MO can be determined and their own tactics and attributes by examining their communications. By recording their interactions it gives the dark personalities less room to deny what they previously said and gradually it gives them less ability to control and manipulate, knowing that they are being monitored and recorded. They hate this. They do modify their behaviour according to what has been revealed, as they do not like their tactics being revealed. Studying and recording Grey Area Operator also will be useful for people to compare to other dark personalities that may be trying to control them.

Background

Prior to mid March, Stellarfox16 used to be Grey Operator’s Chief Flying Monkey. She used to defend the indefensible about Grey Operator, without question and without evidence. Stellarfox16 had previously ignored warnings from people like myself and Veronica and others about Grey Area Operator. Then after disagreeing with him on methodology of his constant attacks on people, she finally saw and recognised the abuser aide of Grey Operator, that others were already familiar with. Stellarfox16 blocked GreyAreaMonarch in mid March 2025 after some to and fro on twitter and then DM’s. 2025 March was “Round 1” and detailed here, Flying Monkey Fallout 1 StellarFox16 Blocked Grey Area Monarch, [SSGM44].

This story has moved on substantially since then and this post will try and catch up a bit and deals with events from 16-18th March.

Notes

• Dates will correspond to approximate British time, and not US time where it was happening. Not ideal when events are happening in the US.

• I have split responses by numbers eg. Grey 1.0, Stellar 1.0, 1.1, etc to give a rough idea of related responses and sequence. Sometimes several responses were made by one side to only one or perhaps no reply from the other. It’s not a perfect system, but it should help. Numbering is different to previous posts, due to more tweets being found.

• Whilst I have included most responses, it is difficult to follow down various split threads etc. I have left none out deliberately to change any meanings or favour one over the other. This comment is partly to pre-empt Grey’s usual playing the victim and squealing of “out of context” excuse.

• Response Summaries - I have included bullet point text summaries of the screenshot responses

• Response Analysis - I have included bullet point analysis where I have thought it helpful. As the point of this post is to record Grey Area Operator’s interactions, there will be tend to more analysis on his posts. There is also far more “control / manipulation / propaganda / side” on Grey Operator’s tweets than StellaFox16’s.

• Both use the word “abusers”. It must be pointed out that often this is false framing originating largely from Grey Operator. When they refer to abusers or infiltrators or similar wording, it often is really a victim of false accusations, a target of Grey’s that he has framed as an abuser / infiltrator for his own purposes. StellarFox16 has either believed him, or sometimes independently is equally wrong. The person might well be wholly innocent. I sometimes add [target] on some instances of this to clarify.

• To assist in keeping track of which tweets are in which thread subsequent tweets are in, I am trying assigning them names, of significnt words early in the thread.

The Grey Area Operator - StellarFox16 Feud Continues

After the mid March fall out between StellarFox16 and GreyAreaMonarch it went quiet for a month but then Grey Area started up the feud again in mid April on twitterX. Here is what happened.

Grey Area Operator Restarts the Feud

2025 April 16 Grey 1.0

This could have been a general tweet but Grey often uses subtweets, so at this stage reserve judgement, but just note what a subtweet is, it was new to me.

Subtweet

A subtweet is a post on social media, especially on X, that indirectly refers to or criticizes someone without mentioning their name or tagging them. It’s a way to shade or call out a person, group, or situation vaguely enough to avoid direct confrontation while still getting the point across. For example, someone might post, “Some people need to learn manners,” aiming it at a specific person but not naming them. The term comes from “subtle” and “tweet.”

2025 April 17th - Grey 1.1 “Boundaries” thread

The next day, Grey Area Operator posts another subtweet. It is quite clear now that Grey Operator means StellarFox16.

Grey Operator 1.1 Text

• Everyone has their right to set boundaries. If I make an announcement about what I won't accept, on my own page, that is setting a boundary.

• If someone comes on my page and trashes my work saying it helps abusers...and is making announcements on their page denouncing me for calling out people promoting satanists such as Elizondo... thats not setting a boundary... thats attacking me and actually helping abusers.

• I have every right to set a boundary against anyone doing that. If their response is to tell me that an abuser was 'right about me'... that speaks more about them than me.

• I wish everyone the best on their journey healing and helping others... but if this is the type of thing you do... you need to take a serious look in the mirror because you have some things you clearly need to work on.

• I never would expect to be attacked like that and it was disgusting... then still trying to be friendly with people close without addressing it... that's insanely disrespectful and two faced.

• I'm the type to talk things out to a resolution. That seems reasonable and respectful. I don't claim to always be right or have the right way but I do claim that how things went down was some BS and how things continued was disrespectful AF

Analysis of Grey Operator’s 1.1

• Subtweet - Grey Operator posted on his twitter timeline about the feud, but without mentioning who he was talking about, StellarFox16. Grey kept his target unnamed. If he had made clear that it had been someone from his inner circle then more notice would have been taken by people and there might have been support for StellarFox16’s stance. However the way that he chose not to use her name, then his rant just seemed like any number of his previous rants, when he whinges / creates a narrative about being attacked by all and sundry. He plays the victim but yet starts virtually all the arguments and does most of the attacking.

• Quite obviously Grey was framing what happened in his favour. He well knows that when someone as close as a Chief Flying Monkey turns their back on him then it is a devastating indictment of him and his behaviour, and that it will negatively affect him, if he does not propagandise otherwise. Grey Area Operator is well used to framing events in his favour, he is luciferian trained in psyops and propaganda and he also has had much practise in framing and reframing events with his multiple sock puppets and gang stalking expertise on twitterx. It is one of the skills of a propagandist to get the first framing as the first story is believed more than subsequent ones, see Gaslighting and the Importance of the First Story [fb32532]. It is also important to keep reframing and keep repeating. Repetition is a fundamental part of propaganda.

The main ways that Grey Area Monarch tried to frame the fall out were…

• Boundaries- Grey Area Monarch started off with the boundary issue and just talked in generalities. That may be partly due to the fact that not many survivors will disagree with a survivor setting boundaries. Boundaries are an issue that survivors have to learn, not having been allowed any boundaries no boundaries existed for them. It is an important step in recovery. Thus Grey was playing on this, to get many survivors on his side to start with. Grey appears to be trying to say that a boundary that was already stated was then broken. In my reading of the situation then that was not the case. StellarFox16 did not reply to any more of Grey’s tweets on the central issue of his attacking others, after he had named his boundary, just a short reply that his boundary has been brought on by her boundary. StellarFox16 did not break his boundary after he stated that was a boundary, although he gives the impression that she did. Not mentioning who that boundary was towards will have helped Grey get support.

• Trashing my work - Stellarfox16 disagreed with him but he framed that as “trashing my work saying it helps abusers”. My reading is that she did not trash his work per se, either his testimony or what he said. Stellar’s point was Grey’s methodology, his decision to throw fuel on the fire was unhelpful. She had specifically said that there were other ways to fight them than the way Grey Operator chose to do so.
  Grey constantly attacks people on twitter, either directly on their timeline by comments or tagging them and using an accusations and inflammatory language. This escalates the situation partly as supporters of the attacked person get involved. This is what I believe Stellarfox16 was saying was counterproductive, and indeed according to Grey “multiple people” had said the same. There are less inflammatory methods than that which Grey could choose. On twitter he could just stick to his own timeline - it’s ironic and hypocritical that Grey transgresses the boundary that he draws for others by frequently clout chasing and “calling out” / trashing people on their own timeline. He could also address issues by video or blogs without all the direct confrontation that causes the vast majority of the division and escalation and entrenchment.

For the record Grey has trashed my work.

[SSGM33]

It’s a technique used by dark personalities…

• “making announcements on their page denouncing me for calling out people promoting satanists such as Elizondo”. Again it is the method that was being called out, but also the lack of evidence when he calls them out. He constantly calls people out without receipts.

• “I have every right to set a boundary” Repetition propaganda about boundaries, which are irrelevant except as the foundation of Grey’s attack on Stellar.

• “thats attacking me and actually helping abusers”. Having framed it as trashing his work, he then also framed it as an attack on him, and therefore of help to “abusers” [Grey’s labels are often just smears]. He thus totally inverted the situation and made himself out as the victim, and not the perpetrator of attacks, (DARVO). In fact valid criticism was given, but StellarFox16 had remained supportive of him. Grey however escalated and went into tantrum mode, as he could no longer control Stellar directly.

• “thats attacking me and actually helping abusers”. The use of pejorative language “abusers” without proof, Grey’s labels are often just smears. Grey constantly labels people with no evidence or receipts.

• “If their response is to tell me that an abuser was 'right about me'... that speaks more about them than me.” Abuser or not, if they were right about Grey eg. that he was ultra controlling, then anyone has a right to mention it, perhaps even a duty, as Grey is controlling to survivors and as I have detailed actually he has triggered and programmed survivors. Grey Operator is dangerous to survivors.

• “I wish everyone the best on their journey healing and helping others... but if this is the type of thing you do... you need to take a serious look in the mirror because you have some things you clearly need to work on. Grey is trying to play Mr. Reasonable and then trying to make it appear that he was more healed than StellarFox16 in a very superior and condescending manner. He thinks or at least says that he is more healed than anyone else he knows. He is not, his actions speak for themselves and are a part of his damage / illness. The evidence from his own destructive behaviour does not support that he is well healed.

• “I never would expect to be attacked like that and it was disgusting...” Repetition propaganda of the attack inversion BS.

• “then still trying to be friendly with people close without addressing it... that's insanely disrespectful and two faced”. Grey may think that, but others do not. It appears that he is making mountains of molehills. Grey was clearly trying to control StellarFox16’s contact with Emma, his partner henchman, wife of sorts, by saying that StellarFox16 being in touch with Emma but not discussing the fall out with Grey was disrespectful and two faced. Many people can still have relationships with one person of a couple, without having to discuss the other person. However controlling people / dark personalities do not allow this to happen, as they wish to control, isolate and punish the person that has slipped from their control as well as control other people’s opinion of them. Grey’s behaviour is controlling, and he is trying to prevent fall out by isolating Stellar from his wife and Partner Henchman Emma. In reality Stellar and Emma were friends before Stellar met Grey, he was not owed anything. To say it is disrespectful is pushing it, to say insanely disrespectful is absurd.

• “I'm the type to talk things out to a resolution. That seems reasonable and respectful. I don't claim to always be right or have the right way but I do claim that how things went down was some BS and how things continued was disrespectful AF”. Grey wants to appear as the reasonable party, he loves pretending to be Mr. Reasonable, having acted the opposite. He talks a good game until you realise is it BS and propaganda to control and manipulate. Many people who have had direct experience of him say that he is far from reasonable and is not interested in anyone else’s opinion, solely his own. For example from personal experience, he told me that Organize Safety was “the solution and you’re lying to yourself if you think otherwise”, [SSGM42]'.

That showed profound disinterest in my opinion. Not a reasonable position, not talked through whatsoever. No resolution. That blog post also shows DM’s of Grey’s which are valuable to see how Grey operates. Furthermore I set a boundary that Grey was to no longer contact me, after his constant abuse, twisting statements and threats. He ignored this time after time, harassed me and made further threats via multiple accounts and platforms. Yet Grey is now having a tantrum over at most over one public reply, if that, that might have possibly crossed his boundary, which anyway he had provoked by a pointed subtweet. Also he is using repetition propaganda of his “disrespectful” agenda.

A quick bullet point summary of the analysis, Grey Operator tried to frame the fallout with Stellarfox16 as…

• A boundary had been broken - but no boundary was broken after it was set

• Trashing his work - in reality it was valid and fair criticism of his methodology, not his work, whilst still supporting him

• Him being attacked. He inverted the problem which was his attacks on others, and valid criticism of his methodology into him being the person attacked, positioning himself as the victim and that criticism of him was helping abusers [label often for his smear targets]. Playing the victim is a common technique of his.

• Implying that people criticising him were less healed than him - Condescending and lacking in evidence.

• Stellar having been disrespectful in talking to Grey’s partner, whilst in a dispute with him. He was trying to control Stellar’s relationship with Emma, something controlling people do, when they lose control of a person.

• Trying to appear that he is reasonable, and cast StellarFox16 as unreasonable. The reality is many people have evidence to show that Grey is utterly unreasonable, no matter how he tries to spin it, nor how often he talks and repeats that he is Mr. Reasonable.

• Grey’s method of “calling out” on twitter on their timelines breaks the boundaries he sets for others. Plainly does not live by “do as you would be done by”.

• Grey routinely breaks other people’s boundaries set for him.

• Grey obviously framing and reframing the narrative and propagandising.

2025 April 17th 20.49 - Grey Operator 1.2

Grey then posted his “venting” post, a third subtweet as a comment on his “boundaries” subtweet, which directly accused an unnamed person, which appears to be StellarFox16, and characterised her as being abusive to another survivor, which may be interpreted as being an abuser of survivors.

Text

• Sometimes venting is the healthy alternative. Believe it or not... I still wish everyone the best...

• but there are lines and then there are lines..

• and when you're abusive to another survivor - you've gone way too far.

• Where I come from, that's the type of thing you have to address before you come back around those people's people

• But I'm not the type to tell my people to cut off them off or to hate them...

• and you'll never catch me telling them that abusers were right about them either. Never that!

• I will call out the BS though... and continue to

Analysis

• Sometimes venting is the healthy alternative. Believe it or not... I still wish everyone the best... Grey is just playing at being Mr. Reasonable for public viewing.

• “when you're abusive to another survivor - you've gone way too far” It depends on the definition of ‘abusive’” being used, but I did not see anything particularly abusive from StellarFox16 publicly, certainly nothing that Grey Operator does not do routinely. Perhaps something was said in DM’s, but I suspect this was a creative use of the term abuse from Grey for framing the narrative purposes for public consumption. Grey Area Operator is routinely abusive to survivors and non survivors, so he is being deceitful and hypocritical, regular behaviour for him. Perhaps he could detail what he found abusive, and how he reconciles that with his far worse abuse of survivors, advocates and others. However note that he is framing StellarFox16 as an abuser of survivors, quite deliberately and not even stating that he is the other survivor. It’s an argument between survivors and he is portraying it as someone abusing survivors. So he is characterising a survivor who argues with him as being an abuser of survivors. That’s low. This is how Grey Area operates - sly, sneaky, underhand smears. It’s good that he has showed his hand again.

• “Where I come from, that's the type of thing you have to address before you come back around those people's people”. Grey appears to trying to strengthen his very weak case that, according to his code, StellarFox16 should have sorted her relationship out with him, before she spoke to Emma, his wife of sorts. Grey is trying to controlling access to Emma, and trying to control Stellar but trying to cloak it in a fabricated honourable code of conduct.

• But I'm not the type to tell my people to cut off them off or to hate them...” Mr. Reasonable for public consumption, to pretend that he is not controlling.

• “and you'll never catch me telling them that abusers were right about them either. Never that!”. This appears to be applying to a DM that was sent, that had not yet been released but it was released later and will be discussed later. Grey publicly talked about private DM content deliberately. He chooses the word “abusers” but many that he accuses are wrongly accused by Grey. Grey admits that he would not tell the truth if someone he accused of being an abuser told the truth about a person. That is warped. Why not?

• “I will call out the BS though... and continue to” - Grey’s classification of BS is warped as he lies so much but this was said for his supporters and those in the public who do not know him, to make it appear as though he is brave and has morals.

StellarFox16’s Response 1.0

Stellar responded a few hours later on her own timeline and chose to explain some more about Grey Area Operator’s behaviour. This will be referred to in this article as the “calling everyone satanists” thread.

StellarFox16’s Response 1.0 Attached Screenshots

Text

• Alrighty. I wasn’t going to do this publicly or blast you by name, but okay GreyAreaMonarch

• What happened was, you were acting like a rabid animal towards people, calling everyone Satanists, and shitting on people who weren’t in your fight with some online assets. You seemed to seek out and cut off every out reached hand there was to the community during the big upheaval of uap disclosure. It was noticed - not only by me.

• You kept feeding the beast and I told you directly my opinion on it, and made a post because lots of survivors fall victim to it, while publicly saying I still support you - but that its what the abusers want.

• I don’t dim truth because you are(were) a friend.

• You wanted to take it off public spaces and dm. And we did. Where you immediately used coercive control and push/pull methods to play with me.

• You immediately refused to have a conversation after wanting to talk in DMs, telling me I needed to calm down.

• “Don’t make me block you” for asking questions.

• So I blocked you. And I am also allowed to have friends in the community despite having an issue with you.

• So if me still being friends with anyone in the survivor community bothers you, you can take your controlling self elsewhere.

• And yes - yes the abuser was correct because broken clocks are still correct twice a day. And yes - you use coercive control on survivors. And yes, you are picking a fight with the WRONG one.

• Not to mention? The conversations you had with my husband where you were completely two faced, in DMs vs public posts. He noticed before I did. And I gave endless “what ifs” and “wait and sees”.

• If me still tagging your wife because I met her first and was on her show makes me “disingenuous” so be it.

• Way to twist everything. And way to prove I was correct in my instincts.

• Ta-ta, Grey :)

StellarFox16’s Response 1.0 Analysis

• Grey Operator’s repeated sub tweeting left StellarFox16 a “no win” choice. She could keep allowing Grey Area Operator free rein to frame everything in his favour, or to get involved in what inevitably would be a nasty to and fro with an experienced luciferian trained propagandist who relishes conflict and has no morality about lying and making false accusations consistently.

• StellarFox16 made it clear that she was referring to his methodology of calling out “abusers” and that he criticised survivors who did not do things his way, and that he gatekeeps survivors from those reaching out about disclosure.

• I recognise all the behaviours that StellarFox16 mentioned of Grey Operator’s above and that he uses coercive control and narcissistic push pull techniques as well as other techniques. In this post there are many examples of him calling people satanists as a slur and technique of manipulation, see Master of the Satanic Slur [SSGM52].

• StellarFox16 herself should reassess her use and judgement of the term “abusers”. Grey has already accused her being abusive to survivors, so you can see how a person like Grey who does this can easily call Stellar an “abuser”, which he has already implied. It is dangerous territory. Stellar has still to unpack that Grey smears and slurs people with many labels of which “abusers” is one. He does it to get unquestioning support from other survivors, he lies that he has been in dispute with them for 10 years, and they are all part of the same group etc etc. In reality they were just people who got in his way and get smeared and falsely accused.

• “calling everyone Satanists” Stellar is saying that he labels everyone as satanists, which he does, just one of the false labels he uses. It’s a technique, see Master of the Satanic Slur - Grey Area Monarch, [SSGM52].

• “and shitting on people who weren’t in your fight with some online assets”. Stellar said that he shits on people who choose not to use the methods that he does, which is true, he casts slurs about them not being able to take the heat etc.

• “You seemed to seek out and cut off every out reached hand there was to the community during the big upheaval of uap disclosure. It was noticed - not only by me.” When Grey gets contacted by people, often by abusing them and screaming and shouting at them, and they are good enough to try to speak to him about his concerns, Grey is mouthy and aggressive and then cuts off people who were reaching out. This happened when people were reaching out to mind controlled survivors (RAMCOA) from UAP (UFO) community when some disclosure appeared possible. Grey acts as leader with no authority to do so, and no one will ever meet his controlling conditions and then he cuts off the opportunities for others to cross divides as well.

• “You kept feeding the beast and I told you directly my opinion on it, and made a post because lots of survivors fall victim to it, while publicly saying I still support you - but that its what the abusers want.” Stellar voiced her opinion, that Grey’s methodology fans the flames, feeds the beast etc, but Grey Area Monarch won’t address the issue. He just tries to reframe justified and constructive criticism as attacking him or even abusive to survivors.

• “You wanted to take it off public spaces and dm. And we did. Where you immediately used coercive control and push/pull methods to play with me.” Stellar took it private, but he tried to control and manipulate her. I doubt he can help it, he is so used to doing it, that’s what he does.

• You immediately refused to have a conversation after wanting to talk in DMs, telling me I needed to calm down. Then Grey refused to discuss it privately, so it appears to be a technique designed to not discuss it, but keep that hidden from the public.

• “Don’t make me block you” for asking questions. This is a controlling technique, so Stellar blocked him instead.

• “And I am also allowed to have friends in the community despite having an issue with you. So if me still being friends with anyone in the survivor community bothers you, you can take your controlling self elsewhere.” Grey was trying to control Stellar’s friendship with Emma by using his faux moral codes.

• “And yes - yes the abuser was correct because broken clocks are still correct twice a day. “ Stupid comment. “Abuser” was correct as he has personal experience of Grey and knew how he lied and reframed events with him, just as Stellar is now experiencing.

• “And yes - you use coercive control on survivors. And yes, you are picking a fight with the WRONG one.” Yes Grey does use coercive control and other control and manipulation techniques. Myself and others have been saying this for years only to be attacked by StellarFox16 as Grey’s Chief Flying Monkey. She needs to revisit the accusations she made against me and others, based on now learning of Grey’s manipulative techniques / programming.

• “The conversations you had with my husband where you were completely two faced, in DMs vs public posts. He noticed before I did.” Aaron noticed Grey was two faced and that he said one thing in private and another in public. It’s a technique Grey uses often. He says whatever is needed, to whoever it is needed to advance his agenda. Whether it is truth or lies is incidental to him.

• “And I gave endless “what ifs” and “wait and sees”. Stellar was slow to see Grey’s control and manipulation, because she accepted his word, believed him blindly without checking even when others warned about Grey.

• “If me still tagging your wife because I met her first and was on her show makes me “disingenuous” so be it.” Stellar met Emma first and was on her show, and thus had a relationship independent of Grey.

• Way to twist everything. And way to prove I was correct in my instincts. Yes Grey does twist everything, but Stellar’s instincts were very slow to kick in, even when others and then her husband warned her about Grey.

• Ta-ta, Grey :)

2025 April 18 Stellar’s Response 1.1

This comment was directly onto Grey’s subtweet in the “boundaries” tweet group, and included her main response 1.0 as a quote tweet.

Context

Stellar’s Response 1.1 Text

• Wow. So you lie too, huh?

• That’s a wild twisting of events. Nobody trashed you or your work. But alright.

• It’s been weeks and since you want to say I’m disrespectful (like you are owed, you are not) for still having friends I interact with in the community, here’s my response:

Analysis Stellar’s Response 1.1

• I guess that she replied on his timeline so others would see her response there. Stellar must have unblocked Grey at some stage, posted a reply on his timeline, and quoted tweeted her previous response on her own timeline, where she had also tagged him.

• Wow. So you lie too, huh? That’s a wild twisting of events. Nobody trashed you or your work. I concur with Stellar’s comments, Grey is deliberately mischaracterising to play the victim. Stellar had constructively criticised Grey on this issue, something he has said that many had criticised him for. Grey then twists events to his narrative, as normal.

• “It’s been weeks”. Yes Grey restarted their dispute after a month. There was no need, he did it deliberately and provocatively.

• “since you want to say I’m disrespectful (like you are owed, you are not) for still having friends I interact with in the community, here’s my response:” Grey is not owed respect. When anyone finds out he is a serial liar for the first time, they find he has been given too much undeserved respect. Then she quote tweeted her previous response.

Aaron 1.0 replied to StellarFox16 1.0

Aaron Schultz aaronschultzart is Kaity StellarFox16’s husband who is a UFO experiencer, and also iirc has been interviewed by Emma from the Imagination Podcast, Grey’s wife. Aaron had noticed red flags with Grey in January or maybe before. He now made a reply on Stellar’s “call everyone satanists” thread.

Aaron Schultz 1.0 text

• Yeah - lots of red flags.

• Privately saying one thing in DMs and then publicly posting something completely different.

• Saying that “if they’re not talking about what I’m talking about, or going about this how I’m going about that then THEY ARE EVIL SO DONT TRUST THEM,” then adding the classic double-speak lines either before or after: “Now im not saying my way is the only way but…. I’m not trying to leap to conclusions, but….”(Yeah, bro - you *do* do that, and you know it) while turning around and railing on people who do that exact same thing.

• Spouting the same abduction denialism disinformation that the intelligence community themselves literally invented to spread division, and going about it in the exact same way, too. (And reminder: I’ve been studying this topic my entire life. I don’t usually pull this card, but: I know what I’m talking about, here). This makes sense: that’s the world Grey comes from. These are the skills he’s admitted to me, directly, he has, as someone who once ran “targeted individual” ops on people.

• And to talk to you directly now, Grey: now you’re trying to triangulate and isolate her for calling it like she sees it, which is what she’s always done, but I guess is only okay for you to do? You’re using all the classic narc reversals. Classic DARVO. Come *on* dude.

• And to certain others: Her instincts on red flags like this - you’ve trusted them with all the others, watched as she’s been proven *right* about those red flags over and over again, but when it’s Grey….Suddenly it’s not ok? Suddenly she’s wrong? When looking out for fellow survivors is *the ONLY* aim she’s ever had? Y’all know she isn’t about the drama. That’s the dude insisting everyone focus on internet trolls instead of perpetrators.

• But whatever, you do you, I guess.

Analysis of Aaron’s Response 1.0 to his wife StellarFox16 about Grey Operator.

• Yeah - lots of red flags. Yes there were lots of red flags about Grey, and some of us have paid a high price for pointing this out over years.

• Privately saying one thing in DMs and then publicly posting something completely different. Grey says one thing in private, a different thing in public. Classic manipulative strategy.

• Saying that “if they’re not talking about what I’m talking about, or going about this how I’m going about that then THEY ARE EVIL SO DONT TRUST THEM,” then adding the classic double-speak lines either before or after: “Now im not saying my way is the only way but…. I’m not trying to leap to conclusions, but….”(Yeah, bro - you *do* do that, and you know it) while turning around and railing on people who do that exact same thing. Grey wants everyone to do what he says and do it the way he says to do it. If you don’t then Grey casts you as evil and not to be trusted, as complicit with whoever and therefore the “enemy” to be insulted, abused and lied about. He also primes people with this information privately so that they will go against his target. Aaron says he jumps to conclusions and knows it and is hypocritical as he attacks those who do that. Yes. Grey’s analysis is poor and he is hypocritical.

• “Spouting the same abduction denialism disinformation that the intelligence community themselves literally invented to spread division, and going about it in the exact same way, too. (And reminder: I’ve been studying this topic my entire life. I don’t usually pull this card, but: I know what I’m talking about, here)”’. Aaron says that Grey uses “abduction denialism” which was invented to spread division. This is not my field but Aaron has been studying this all his life. I defer to others, but at first blush then Aaron appears to have reasonable argument.

• “This makes sense: that’s the world Grey comes from. These are the skills he’s admitted to me, directly, he has, as someone who once ran “targeted individual” ops on people“. Aaron says that Grey’s behaviour is consistent with Grey having admitted to him that he used to run TI ops on people, i.e. that Grey Operator used to target individuals running operations against TI’s, and that disinformation via abduction denialism could well be part of that.

• “And to talk to you directly now, Grey: now you’re trying to triangulate and isolate her for calling it like she sees it, which is what she’s always done, but I guess is only okay for you to do? You’re using all the classic narc reversals. Classic DARVO. Come *on* dude.” Aaron says that Grey was obviously trying to isolate and triangulate Stellar, presumably especially with reference to her relationship with Emma, for saying what she thought. Aaron said that Grey uses narcissist reversals, I think this is what I have termed “inversion”, and DARVO [deny, attack, reverse victim and offender]. Yes Grey does and many other control and manipulation techniques.

• And to certain others: Her instincts on red flags like this - you’ve trusted them with all the others, watched as she’s been proven *right* about those red flags over and over again, but when it’s Grey….Suddenly it’s not ok? Suddenly she’s wrong? Previously I missed the “certain others” part. This appears to be addressed to Emma but whoever it was aimed at, they had previously trusted Stellar’s red flags but when they were about Grey then Stellar’s red flags were ignored.

• When looking out for fellow survivors is *the ONLY* aim she’s ever had? I don’t know if that is Stellar’s aim, but if so then she gets distracted a great deal.

• Y’all know she isn’t about the drama. I disagree, Stellar involves herself in many arguments and drama, almost every day on twitter, often for hours. They are there for all to see. In this case however it is demonstrably Grey Operator creating the drama, as he does a great deal.

• That’s the dude insisting everyone focus on internet trolls instead of perpetrators. I would agree it’s not perpetrators, but to label them trolls is not accurate, many are those who Grey Operator targets are those who experienced his control and manipulation way before Aaron or Stellar did, who were both slow to clock onto Grey’s true behaviour.

• I agree with most of what Aaron says about Grey, red flags, saying different things in public and private, that Grey wants to dictate what everyone does and how they do it otherwise they become the enemy, that Grey is very hypocritical, that his analysis is poor, that he isolates people, and that he uses inversions and DARVO. All classic Grey Operator behaviour.

• It is very interesting that Aaron says that Grey Operator admitted to having used to run “targeted individual” operations on people. I did not know this previously. Essentially Grey just pivoted his behaviour to doing the same type of harassment of people via social media. On twitter he uses his sock puppets, gang stalking and attacking legitimate survivors and survivor advocates. To use an analogy, Grey wants to appear to be a Ghostbuster, so he keeps making up that he sees ghosts and attacks people he smears as ghosts.

Aaron 1.1, Stellar’s 1.2, 1.3

These were also replies on Stellar’s “call everyone satanists” thread.

Aaron 1.1, Stellar’s 1.2, 1.3 Text

• I figured you’d want to *finally* say your peace on the matter publicly, since he decided to continue the bullshit.

• And Brad WAS correct about grey. Despite him still being a POS asset. Grey DOES use double speak, coercive control and straight up lies about stuff.

• Guess I can’t have friends in the survivor community if grey thinks I shouldn’t. Even though, I met them independent of him. What a shit show.

Aaron 1.1, Stellar’s 1.2, 1.3 Text Analysis

Stellar said that Brad was right and that Grey Operator did use double speak, coercive control and straight up lies as Brad had said. Brad had experienced Grey lying about him, reframing and controlling and manipulating. Stellar had not listened, partly because of having been primed by Grey about Brad.

Aaron

• A shit show indeed, run by a dude whose skin is clearly thinner than he likes to pretend. And yeah: I’ve been wanting to say something for a *minute*.

Yes Grey has got a thin skin, hates criticism and people standing up to him. He demands obedience that he is certainly not due in any way, shape or form, and will take retribution on those who do not give it, wrapped up in public lies.

Stellar

• Not to mention the ultra controlling behavior that said abuser asset pointed out - and is now on full display via greys post.

Yes Grey is ultra controlling as Brad had said, and as some of us already knew but Stellar would not listen and condemned us on Grey’s word with zero evidence. Stellar needs to review all the people who were framed as bad by Grey.

Angeldust194907

• Ah the "Do better" said to a survivor. again. Reminds me of someone. This is narcissistic toxic behavior grey. U're not in the right here. U do better. If u genuinely wanna help survivors, this ain't it man it really isn't

Grey uses “Do better” quite a bit. He is the last person who should be saying this, especially to a survivor. It’s condescending and demeaning. Yes I would agree that Grey’s behaviour is narcissistic and toxic and would add that it creates division. There is only so much of causing division that Grey can do without people realising that it is totally and utterly deliberate.

Grey Operator’s 2.0 2.25am

This was a reply by Grey Operator on Stellar’s Response 1.0 on the “call everyone satanists” thread.

Grey Operator’s 2.0 Text

This is largely inaccurate, hypocritical and exactly why I set boundaries. I said my piece and I had every right to. I don't feel the need to fight fellow survivors. I'll let you continue to do that. I fight our oppressors... but I do stand up for myself and others when survivors side with oppressors. You crossed the line again. Still wish you the best, as vindictive as you are for me calling out the BS. Aaron you're extra cowardly and you are out of your depth. Of course you'll agree with your lady, good for you. Best wishes to you both. Learn some respect and get some integrity. Bye

Grey Operator’s 2.0 Text Analysis

• “This is largely inaccurate, hypocritical, and exactly why I set boundaries”. Grey now speaks in generalities - ”innacurate and hypocritical”. When he is criticised specifically Grey tries to deflect to generalities, whilst often accusing others of that very behaviour, a technique called reverse attribution. The boundaries appear irrelevant, but it is a foundation of his reframing, so repeats it again anyway. This is all just a generic response, that could have been written about anything or anyone.

• “I don't feel the need to fight fellow survivors”. Laughably and hypocritically he is the “survivor” that attacks other survivors more than anyone else. I doubt anyone can name one individual that attacks more survivors than Grey. He inverts the truth.

• I fight our oppressors... Little evidence of that. He fights all and sundry for no good reason and little to no evidence that they are oppressors as he likes to keep saying. Grey Operator makes them targets for standing up to him or criticising him or having a contrary view.

• “but I do stand up for myself and others when survivors side with oppressors. You crossed the line again”. Grey accused Stellar of standing with oppressors. In fact afaik she only said that his methodology was helping “abusers”. Grey twists, reframes and reverses that as standing with oppressors. He reframes anything that is criticism of him as standing with abusers / oppressors. Standard Grey technique. They are often 100% innocent, people that he has framed and smeared as abusers and the like. The oppressor that Stellar helped a great deal was him, Grey Area Operator.

• “Still wish you the best”, Playing Mr. Reasonable for public consumption.

• “as vindictive as you are for me calling out the BS.” Grey can’t hold it together for long, he is very negative person, and loves doing people down, and cannot resist calling them vindictive, trying to characterise them as such for the public audience.

• “Aaron you're extra cowardly and you are out of your depth” Grey then launched into ad hominem attacks, demolishing his own attempt to appear reasonable. He called Aaron “extra cowardly”, and provided no evidence of such, just an insult, and said Grey said Aaron is out of his depth which was condescending and no evidence supplied of that.

• “Best wishes to you both” Mr. Reasonable is back for a sentence.

• “Learn some respect and get some integrity”. Grey Operator told them to learn some respect and integrity, but no evidence or reasoning supplied and this is condescending again. Respect needs to be earned, and Grey lost respect due to his own behaviour, did not deserve to be consulted before Stellar speaks with Emma and he laughably tells others to get integrity when he has none. Grey is in continuing meltdown, but lecturing may lead some people who have not been following closely to think that he is in the right, as most people could not imagine someone lecturing another like this, unless they were totally blameless.

• Grey Area Operator descended into insults / ad hominem attacks which shows that he lost any arguments. He spoke in generalities and provided no evidence or reasoning. He is the one that accused Stellar and Aaron of being vindictive, but it is him that appears that way.

StellarFox16’s Response 2.0 2.1 2.2

This was a reply on the “call everyone satanists” thread.

StellarFox16’s Response 2.0 2.1 2.2 Text

See? Proving my point. You make lies, you twist it all, claim things, and say you want a conversation - then you come on here, say you WILL NOT have a conversation, use DARVO, after posting 6 hours ago about me. Aaron had an issue with you before I did. I should have listened to him. He was correct. You are point blank disingenuous and unwilling to have a conversation as you stated. Sounds a lot like “I don’t argue with victims” doesn’t it?

And why don’t you name the people you have a problem with me talking to? Emma? Cause I’ve already talked to her, and she seemed fine keeping our friendship separate from this drama. But you like to run your mouth and then flee when called out (yet again).

Lies, lies, nothing but lies and controlling behavior. I can talk to who I please. And if TheEmmapreneur doesn’t want to affiliate with me because of the drama, let her tell me herself grey.

StellarFox16’s Response 2.0 2.1 2.2 Analysis

• See? Proving my point. You make lies, you twist it all, claim things, and say you want a conversation - then you come on here, say you WILL NOT have a conversation, use DARVO, after posting 6 hours ago about me... You are point blank disingenuous and unwilling to have a conversation as you stated. Yes Grey appeared to run away from having a conversation on the issue which lest we forget was on the issue of him fanning the flames by the way he attacked everyone.

• Aaron had an issue with you before I did. I should have listened to him. He was correct. Yes she should.

• And why don’t you name the people you have a problem with me talking to? Emma? Cause I’ve already talked to her, and she seemed fine keeping our friendship separate from this drama. I can talk to who I please. And if TheEmmapreneur doesn’t want to affiliate with me because of the drama, let her tell me herself grey. But you like to run your mouth and then flee when called out (yet again). It would seem sensible to let Emma and StellarFox16 sort out their own relationship, irrespective of what happened with Grey, but controlling Grey was never going to allow that to happen. From what Stellar said, then she had already mentioned something to Emma, meaning Grey’s intervention and claims of disrespect were absurd.

• Lies, lies, nothing but lies and controlling behavior. Yes, that is Grey Area Operator.

• I concur with Stellar on her saying that Grey lies, twists things, says he will have conversation but then doesn’t, that he uses DARVO (deny attack, reverses victim and offender) tactic and that he used obvious controlling behaviour re. Stellar / Emma relationship. Her response on having spoken to Emma, directly contradicts Grey’s previous framing of it. Grey of course attacks victims, despite what he says.

25 Apr 18 2.37am Stellar 3.0

This was a reply on the “call everyone satanists” thread.

Stellar 3.0 Text

• “For everyone reading greys outrageous claims, here is the “repeatedly escalating” comments he says I was “escalating” - my first two responses to his wall of DMs. Immediately shut it down. Like he did just now. Again.”

• “He’s a liar and a snake.”

Grey and Stellar DM’s Attached Screenshot

Text of Grey and Stellar Attached DM’s Text

• Grey - “…me multiple times. No animosity but I am setting boundaries. My own boundaries.”

• Stellar- “That’s not what I said. I asked you what the point was on a depressed day. You can ask EMMA about my ‘wanting to give up’ message. It wasn’t about YOU. Problem #1.”

• Stellar - “Your behavior doesn’t align with the things you say - problem #2. You say ‘respectfully’ but let’s be honest - you included things directly from my post - took it entirely personally - and throw shade on people not doing it your way”

• Grey - “Not trying to attack you. Please don’t take it as such. I’m reading everything you say, but am done writing because its not as constructive and things get misconstrued too easily”. “But will be reading all responses”

• Stellar - “So I guess Brad was right about you, Despite him being an ass”

Stellar 3.0 Text and Grey and Stellar DM’s and Comment Summary Analysis

• “For everyone reading greys outrageous claims, here is the “repeatedly escalating” comments he says I was “escalating” - my first two responses to his wall of DMs. Immediately shut it down. Like he did just now. Again.” Stellar said Grey had accused her of having escalated in the private discussions that Grey had wanted to go to. To counter this accusation StellarFox16 released a DM. The DM screenshot supports Stellar’s view that Grey shut the conversation down and that she did not escalate, merely put her side of the argument, after what she says was a wall of DM’s from Grey. Thus I hope people begin to understand some of how Grey works. In public he had promised to discuss in DM’s but in DM’s he effectively refused to discuss it.

• This was just another attempt to reframe their dispute into his favour. I would concur with StellarFox16’s opinions having seen that evidence.

• “You can ask EMMA about my ‘wanting to give up’ message. It wasn’t about YOU. Problem #1.” Stellar in DM’s merely said firstly that Grey had misunderstood something as being about him, which it was not and that he could independently check that with Emma.

• Secondly “Your behavior doesn’t align with the things you say - problem #2. You say ‘respectfully’ but let’s be honest - you included things directly from my post - took it entirely personally - and throw shade on people not doing it your way”. He is so controlling that he always wants things exactly his way, down to others doing as he says, then yes he threw shade on others not doing it his way, I would say he was dismissive, derided and mocked them. Grey does not like criticism, public or private, and even though he said that multiple people had raised concerns, he then he did not want this discussed at all in public, and wanted to deal with each privately and in an isolated fashion - that is how dark personalities and abusers work. Grey is two faced within messages eg. as Stellar points out he says “respectfully” but is then anything but respectful by throwing shade on anyone who does not do it Grey’s way.

• Stellar also said that “He’s a liar and a snake”, and I have seen much evidence of Grey’s behaviour that corroborates this statement. I doubt that Grey thought this was really escalating, he just did not want the discussion, nor to hear criticism. However who knows what goes on in his head? Dark personalities do not take kindly to criticism. Grey wanted to control and he wanted to frame the narrative publicly for people who read his posts that he was justified in his behaviour and was the innocent party. Indeed even though his narrative has now been proved untrue, most people may believe him, as they only read his side, did not have time to look for the replies, did not know the history and so he furthers his narrative myths. The minority that have read Stellar’s replies, or this post, or know how Grey Area Monarch works will be able to weigh the evidence which is against him, and know that he is controlling and manipulative and dishonest.

• Many people might not be prepared to release DM’s as they were made privately and many people have a presumption of privacy. Grey may have been trying to take advantage of any presumption of privacy. If so he was caught out by Stellar doing so. She was right to do so, to rebut the false allegation. However he may now feel that he is free to do that reciprocally, even though his false allegations were what caused the release. People should understand that when they are in private messages with Grey Operator, he does not consider your messages private and will release them to friends or the public if convenient for his agenda. Indeed he releases DM’s to his close followers, twists them, formulates a false narrative from them to prejudice his chosen friends against that person. My advice to people is that it is best not to discuss anything with Grey that you do not want public, and twisted to suit his agenda.

• Stella finished off with perhaps a slightly low blow given what they both think of Brad, rightly or wrongly, “So I guess Brad was right about you, Despite him being an ass”. What Stellar said was that Brad was right about, was that Grey Operator was ultra controlling, which of course he is. Stellar 1.3

• It must be said that Stellar has been “groomed” by Grey Operator over the 12 months or so whilst she was his chief flying monkey and she still holds biases against people due to that grooming. Some indeed are so far fetched and totally and utterly wrong, that I wonder if Grey actually has programmed her. Even though she has fallen out with him, some of her incorrect opinions from his misdirection still remain.

2025 Apr 18 2.40am Grey Area Operator 3.0

Three minutes after Stellar’s post in her “call everyone satanists” thread Grey Operator posted in his “boundaries” thread, where he had started off this dispute off again in April. He made another subtweet reply to himself.

https://x.com/GreyAreaMonarch/status/1913045030572278188

Grey Area Operator 3.0 Text

• My statements are accurate and counterstatements that are simply not accurate were made in response. I can defend the accuracy of my statements and exact points with facts. I'm not just upset and attacking, and I'm definitely not willing to twist the truth. I've had enough of backstabbing hypocrites... and definitely enough lies about me. I was right to set boundaries... it took alot to get me there.

• I fight oppressors, not fellow survivors. But I'll stand up for myself when a fellow survivors sides with oppressors and makes false statements. Sad it came to that. Back to the usual!

Grey Area Operator 3.0 Analysis

• “My statements are accurate and counterstatements that are simply not accurate were made in response. I can defend the accuracy of my statements and exact points with facts.” Grey states this, he talks a good game but does not go through with showing the accuracy of his statements with facts. He rarely does. It’s a statement for public show and to provoke a response. His statements were not accurate as analysed previously.

• I'm not just upset and attacking, and I'm definitely not willing to twist the truth. By stating he is not these things, ie. upset, attacking and twisting the truth, Grey is implying that Aaron and Stellar are attacking as they upset and twisting the truth. Note he gives the viewers what he thinks will be a plausible reason that he is being attacked, that someone is upset, rather than someone is defending from his attacks or his lies. Grey twists the truth all the time, he is an expert, as he is also at attacking people.

• I've had enough of backstabbing hypocrites... and definitely enough lies about me. Grey implies that Stellar and Aaron are backstabbing hypocrites and liars. Another case of reverse attribution propaganda for the public.

• I was right to set boundaries... it took alot to get me there. Grey plays the victim card, even against other survivors and weaponises the boundary issue again, which is irrelevant as no-one was transgressing his boundary. Now he is discussing them by subtweet. He makes a big deal about creating boundaries yet previously he has said he is the most healed person he knows. Which is it?

• I fight oppressors, not fellow survivors. Grey states incorrectly that he fights oppressors and not fellow survivors. He fights more survivors than anyone else. He is constantly fighting survivors. Whoever he fights, he just calls them a satanist or oppressor or something else as a tactic. He is also implying that Aaron and Stellar attack fellow survivors. I have seen Stellar be constantly argumentative against many people, and she has attacked survivors occasionally but not usually, and when she has done so it has been on initial information from Grey Operator. I have not seen Aaron attack any survivors. All this happened it must be remembered because Stellar criticised Grey’s overly aggressive methods, whilst making clear that she still supported him, then Grey had a hissy fit tantrum, which he is still having and is now trying to reframe it all.

• But I'll stand up for myself when a fellow survivors sides with oppressors and makes false statements. Sad it came to that. Back to the usual! Still reframing his opponents of the day as baddies which is the essence of much of what he does. He makes more false statements than anyone I know.

• Grey is giving a no win choice to Stellar and Aaron. Let Grey Area Operator create a false public narrative framing of them, ie. a Grey propaganda narrative, or re-engage to rebut it, with someone whose only interest is to make them look bad and himself look good and is experienced at it and who uses an AI app to do so. If they reply directly on his timeline with his deliberate provocation, then they are breaking his boundary. This is the kind of thing Grey does as routine.

Aaron’s 2.0 2.42am

Aaron replied to Grey in Stellar’s “call everyone satanists” thread

Aaron’s 2.0 Text

• Bro, for real? You’re just gonna double down on those narc tactics? Refusing to actually respond to anything either of us are saying, and instead resort to name-calling, as usual? Dismissing everything I said by framing it as “oh you’re just agreeing with her?”

• Big bro: I saw through you *first*. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, because I have massive respect for my wife, and for her discernment. And then, when I did give you the benefit of the doubt, you had me going for a minute there. You’re *good* at what you do. But not *that* good. Because look at you, man, just full on going for it with the DARVO, *still*. Yikes.

• Only those afraid of what someone is saying resort to calling someone “cowardly” for speaking their mind.

• And you don’t know me *near* well enough to say that I’m “out of my depth.” Lots of folks have made the mistake of mistaking my quiet nature, my kindness, my laid-back approach to most things, as weakness. But go ahead, keep on. Find out where it got the others who kept on.

Aaron’s 2.0 Text Analysis

• “Bro, for real? You’re just gonna double down on those narc tactics?” Grey does use classic narc ie. narcissist tactics, see these posts for examples of narcissists tactics.

  • Psych Central Narcissism Decoded [7]

  • Attributes and Tactics of Dark Personalities / Persistent Predatory Personalities [fb32495]

• “Refusing to actually respond to anything either of us are saying, and instead resort to name-calling, as usual?“ Grey does refuse to address points made, he never wants to resolve, he just wants to attack and make his own points, and repeat. For instance he has never addressed the cause of the dispute to start with - that he inflames the situation by fuel the fires by attacking people. He has only deflected, and attacked the person who said it and tried to reframe everything as him being the victim, when he is the aggressor and the liar.

• Dismissing everything I said by framing it as “oh you’re just agreeing with her?” which is Aarons rephrasing of “Of course you'll agree with your lady, good for you” I had taken Grey’s comment as morality [redo]

• Big bro: I saw through you *first*. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, because I have massive respect for my wife, and for her discernment. And then, when I did give you the benefit of the doubt, you had me going for a minute there. Yes he talks a good game, until he exposes himself by his actions. Obviously fools many people and still footling them.

• You’re *good* at what you do. But not *that* good. Because look at you, man, just full on going for it with the DARVO, *still*. Yikes. It does appear that Grey is good enough to fool many people, but sometimes it is so obvious. Still inverting the victim and offender. Much I think is for the audience, not for the actual people it is addressed to. Grey is good at fooling many people, but once you know his tactics they are easy to spot

• Only those afraid of what someone is saying resort to calling someone “cowardly” for speaking their mind. Grey does use name calling and ad hominem comments which is a sign he has lost the argument.

• And you don’t know me *near* well enough to say that I’m “out of my depth.” Lots of folks have made the mistake of mistaking my quiet nature, my kindness, my laid-back approach to most things, as weakness. But go ahead, keep on. Find out where it got the others who kept on. Speaks for itself

Aaron’s 3.0 02.59 am

Aaron replied on Grey’s “boundaries” thread

Aaron’s 3.0 Text

• If your statements are accurate then why do you either run scared, or name-call when you’re called out? It’s funny that you call me “cowardly,” because from where I’m standing you look like the coward, bro.

• And nice try, but your reframing this as “just defending yourself” falls epically short, given the fact that you *started* this with your obvious subtweet about my wife. The classic move: subtweet about a person without tagging or even naming them to goad a response. Then, when the person does respond, and tags and names you, you use the subtweet as plausible deniability. “She started it, I’m just defending myself.” Eeehhhh no. You’re not.

• And: Do you fight oppressors, though, dude? Because it seems to me that all you do, especially lately, is try and funnel everyone’s attention and focus towards internet trolls, or are calling out UAP influencers you’ve never met and have no personal history with “Satanists.”

Aaron’s 3.0 Text Analysis

• If your statements are accurate then why do you either run scared, or name-call when you’re called out? Yes Grey does use abuse and ad hominem comments often, and name calling is a sign of losing the argument

• nice try, but your reframing this as “just defending yourself” falls epically short, given the fact that you *started* this with your obvious subtweet about my wife. The classic move: subtweet about a person without tagging or even naming them to goad a response. Then, when the person does respond, and tags and names you, you use the subtweet as plausible deniability. Grey was reframing what happened as him being attacked and defending himself, so that onlookers think Grey is good, other person bad. Yes Grey subtweeted, yes Grey started this up again by series of subtweets and accused Stellar of abusing a survivor so that she had to reply.

• And: Do you fight oppressors, though, dude? Because it seems to me that all you do, especially lately, is try and funnel everyone’s attention and focus towards internet trolls, Aaron questions if the people Grey fights are oppressors, as Grey claims. Aaron makes a valid point that Grey focusses peoples attention and focus on these people. Aaron calls them trolls. Troll has many meanings and it needs exact examples to comment but only a very small proportion are trolls. These are often people who Grey has started arguments with and makes false accusations against. The wider point is that Grey does not concentrate on the head of the snake or oppressors. He rants at social media influencers and who may or may not be under mind control, just like himself. He also rants at totally innocent people. He points the finger all the time as though he always wants a scapegoat, and he is actively scaring survivors and others.

• “or are calling out UAP influencers you’ve never met and have no personal history with “Satanists.” Aaron says Grey calls UAP (UFO) influencers out as satanists but he has never met them or have any personal history with. I don’t follow the UAP debate much, so do not know much. Whatever the truth, which I do not know on this topic, for the sake of argument assume Grey is 100% correct in all he says then who does it help to have a scrap in the town square, rather than present facts and persuade people in a more appropriate venue and calm manner? Accusatory ranting in the virtual market square is not helpful to anyone. Sides just entrench themselves. If however this is pointed out to Grey as constructive criticism, he does not address the point, he frames it as an attack on his work, and helping what he calls oppressors. I do know for a fact that Grey makes false accusations of many people being satanists that are not and he provides zero or false proof, Master of the Satanic Slur - Grey Area Monarch [SSGM52].

Background to the UAP Dispute

Let me try to recap this for those who know even less than me on this issue, and this will not be perfect and I am willing to be corrected, but this is the impression I got skimming some posts at the time. UFO disclosure has been muted for decades and is seen as way way overdue, always about to come soon. Many UFO hosts / influencers are said to be controlled opposition, but equally many think that without them less would have been disclosed or think they are legit. Stephen Greer is perhaps the best known who could come in this category, Luis Elizondo is mentioned, Jake Barber and skywatcher.
Early in 2025, after the sightings of many UAP / UFO type sightings (real or hoaxes I never investigated) there were many more eyes on UAP subjects from the wider public and more hopes of possible disclosure than ever before. Most still wanted disclosure, even via possible controlled opposition, as they thought any disclosure is good and they could discern the controlled opposition parts of it afterwards if necessary. Some might not even know about the controlled opposition part.
There is some overlap between the UAP groups and ritual abuse /mind control groups, but largely they are separate. Some think that there should be more overlap which would more reflect the connections of/ between experiencers and mind control. Many UAPers do not even know of connections between the two fields.
Grey Operator appears to think that there should be no discussion of UAP without recognition of mind control. An absolutist position. He appears to thing that all UAP influencers are controlled and that disclosure will put mind control survivors at risk perhaps of being triggered. Being a loud and aggressive mouth in the mind control and ritual abuse sphere, Grey ranted and raved about this on twitter, on the timelines of the UAP influencers. He lambasted UAP influencers with all sorts of accusations, name calling and abuse. Sometimes he is offered contact and he rants and abuses them in private and the opportunity to cross over UAP/ RAMCOA boundaries was then lost for everyone. He speaks on behalf of all survivors but he has no authority to do so. This I think was what was behind Stellar’s comments about Grey behaving like a rabid animal, a man possessed in his belief. Grey Area Operator only sees things in an open or shut fashion. He thinks his view and way is right and everyone else is wrong and they are therefore evil as they think differently from him. Nothing is ever good enough for Grey unless people do and act exactly as he wants. However Grey was also ranting about inside knowledge of a false flag event due to happen at a skywatcher event. This did not happen. Grey Area Operator’s intel appears faulty or he made it up to scare or divide people.

• Who did Grey get this faulty intel / disinformation from?

• I did not see an apology or explanation, perhaps I missed it.

• Perhaps other people’s methods and ideas have equal or superior merit than his, and Grey Area Operator should hold his tongue a lot more and not bully other people?

• Perhaps he does not know as much as he thinks he does?

• Is Grey Operator himself controlled opposition spreading disinformation?

• Is he still under luciferian alters, end times alters as a chaos agent that he often accuses others of being?

Aaron’s 4.0, 4.1,4.2 Stellar 4.0,4.1 2025 Apr 18 3.16 - 3.34am approx

Aaron started a new thread, the “laid back dude” thread, if it needs to be referred to.

Stellar 4.0

Aaron 4.1

Aaron 4.2

Stellar 4.1

Aaron’s 4.0, 4.1,4.2 Stellar 4.0,4.1 Text

• Aaron - I’m generally a laid back dude. I’m quiet. I give people the benefit of the doubt. But if you’re going to publicly call me a “coward,” and then call me “out of my depth,” when you do not, in fact, know me at all - you better get ready to find out the depth underneath my kindness when you repeatedly come at me and mine. Back off. Or don’t. But if you don’t, just know: I’m done being nice.

• Aaron - And you know what, actually? I’m not gonna subtweet. I was, but nah. I’m talking about GreyAreaMonarch - someone I trusted for a hot minute there. But calling me names, using DARVO tactics to teflon his way out of an actual dialogue? Nope. I’ve waisted enough years on folks like that.

• Stellar -He’s such a liar. He’s such a coward and uses abuse tactics. I CAN NOT believe I fell for it. Wow.

• Aaron - Don’t be hard on yourself: he’s good at what he does. He’s slick. Good at finding people’s pressure points and blind spots. Good at subtly manipulating and controlling those close to him indirectly, at pushing the right buttons to manipulate them into making the choices that align with his interests, while keeping plausible deniability intact.

• Stellar - Also I want to know how anyone knows if he actually left the network?

Aaron’s 4.0, 4.1,4.2 Stellar 4.0,4.1 Text Analysis

• Aaron - “I’m generally a laid back dude. I’m quiet. I give people the benefit of the doubt. But if you’re going to publicly call me a “coward,” and then call me “out of my depth,” when you do not, in fact, know me at all - you better get ready to find out the depth underneath my kindness when you repeatedly come at me and mine. Back off. Or don’t. But if you don’t, just know: I’m done being nice”. I don’t know Aaron, I do know that he had identified Grey as a wrong un at least as far back as January, to a certain extent he made it clear in public and I had spotted this (and have a witness, so I know he is clued into Grey’s methods, without at that stage having being overtly attacked, which is how most people know for sure. He however was not sure enough to override Stellar or take Grey on himself, until Stellar found out by being attacked. Aaron says he has more depth to him than Grey realises, I don’t doubt that.

• Aaron “calling me names, using DARVO tactics to teflon his way out of an actual dialogue? Nope. I’ve waisted enough years on folks like that.” Grey Area Operator routinely uses DARVO type techniques, and that is the least he does. Grey is the perpetual offender who then loves to cry victim to get him out the the situation. But it’s more than that, Darvo is just a part of the control and manipulation techniques he uses and that he has been trained in by the Luciferians.

• Stellar -”He’s such a liar. He’s such a coward and uses abuse tactics. I CAN NOT believe I fell for it. Wow.” Stellar was warned multiple times about Grey, but she would not listen and attacked those who warned people about Grey. She must reflect on that and readjust. Some people need apologies from her. Check the facts.

• Don’t be hard on yourself: he’s good at what he does. He’s slick. Good at finding people’s pressure points and blind spots. Good to a certain extent, but when you compare what he does with dark personalities, then it is obvious and it does not take long to get your eye in to his techniques.

• Good at subtly manipulating and controlling those close to him indirectly, at pushing the right buttons to manipulate them into making the choices that align with his interests, while keeping plausible deniability intact. That is very well put. Grey manipulates people behind the scenes, individually or in groups. He pushes people / friends /followers without them realising, into taking views / positions about people or situations so that they will think someone else is bad or at fault, with himself as the victim, which he then fabricates is due to calling out people / satanists/ offenders. The people he has manipulated in private will then speak out against Grey’s target, without him even directly asking them to.

• “Also I want to know how anyone knows if he actually left the network?”. This is the most important question from Stellar. How can anyone know? Has he left? Leaving aside Grey’s empty and repeated rhetoric saying that he has, many of his actual actions align with the luciferian agenda - causing division, unprecedented since he started on twitter, his programming of survivors, his sock puppet accounts, his aggressive confrontations with all and sundry which only entrench positions, his collation of survivor data, his infiltration of survivors and more. It all points to Grey being a luciferian chaos agent still under control. There are so many unanswered questions.

• The reason people such as Veronica, myself, Brad and now Aaron and Stellar know that he is a liar, snake etc is he has lied about each of us, and we have then seen his control and manipulation and framing and reframing of that situation. Grey is a controller, manipulator and perpetrator there is no doubt. In In my opinion the only way to deal with someone like Grey so that he does not take more victims is to expose him publicly, including his DMs so people can see the patterns of his behaviour.

Context

Grey Operator’s 3.1

Grey Operator replied to Aaron in Grey’s “boundaries” thread escalation

Grey’s 3.1 Text

• Run scared? What? You had me blocked when I wrote that. Dude get a grip. If I have a problem... I try to talk to people privately, repsectfully and responsibly. Like I tried to do. Not that I'm perfect at all but I'm not the one notorious for snapping on other survivors. I'm the one who tries to talk to people directly if there is a problem.

• Katy just wrote a grossly misrepresented version of events... I encourage you to check the DMs to see when I tried to deescalate and have a verbal, and when I mentioned blocking... only after some nasty stuff. I'm not the one angry here, at all. I'm the one who set boundaries on my own page which applied to multiple people. One of them 'liked' my post and understood. One of them escalated and got vicious.

• BTW about the rest... i watched you repeatedly wish wash about Elizondo and he absolutely was groomed by and supports satanists, and more. You were DMing BS before you both made backstabbing public statements after I called out Elizondo. Thats objectively true... and folding like that is cowardly. I don't live like that.

• You have no credibility and are in over your head when it comes to this... I get it you want to support your lady. Attack me all you want this isnt me fighting or aggressing. I set boundaries and stood up for myself. Defended myself. Are you saying I'm reframing it and I was the aggressor? You should go back and look how this went down. I literally wish yall the best but don't support actual satanists and I don't support people selling out survivors or causing damage. Again you're in over your head.

• If you want to address a specific specific issue I'm more than willing... this isnt me attacking by a long shot. I'm not angry and I don't hate y'all. I didn't aggress. I set a boundary and I defended myself when a grossly misrepresented version of events was told. Frame it out you want man whatever. Just be honest, do is all a favor

Grey’s 3.1 Analysis

• Run scared? What? You had me blocked when I wrote that. Dude get a grip. Maybe a fair point until you realise Aaron was talking about Stellar. There are certainly valid reasons to block Grey. He lies and lies, and lies wasting peoples time with nonsense.

• If I have a problem... I try to talk to people privately, repsectfully and responsibly. No, not even remotely true in my experience.

• Like I tried to do. No he shut it down.

• Not that I'm perfect at all but I'm not the one notorious for snapping on other survivors. Yes he his. Neither Stellar nor Aaron are. But Grey has snapped on many survivors and advocates, but in his head, he just reclassifies them as satanists, or oppressors.

• I'm the one who tries to talk to people directly if there is a problem. He says this but his actions point to the reverse as shown by Stellar, as demonstrated personally to me and Veronica.

• Katy just wrote a grossly misrepresented version of events... I encourage you to check the DMs to see when I tried to deescalate and have a verbal, and when I mentioned blocking... only after some nasty stuff. Grey writes stuff that is lies for public consumption. He knows he has lost Stellar and Aaron, it’s about propaganda, not truth.

• I'm not the one angry here, at all. I'm the one who set boundaries on my own page which applied to multiple people. One of them 'liked' my post and understood. One of them escalated and got vicious. Reframing from Grey into the opposite of what happened. He is seething, he weaponised boundary issues, no-one escalated or got vicious except for him. Baby Grey. Grey refused to discuss in public, the issue of Grey attacking other in public but to go private, then he refused to discuss it in private, but in public Grey made accusations that Stellar has escalated when accused of not discussing it in private.

• BTW about the rest... i watched you repeatedly wish wash about Elizondo and he absolutely was groomed by and supports satanists, and more. You were DMing BS before you both made backstabbing public statements after I called out Elizondo. Thats objectively true... Too much research needed for me to comment definitely BUT it just seems like Grey reframing and I love the way he says subjectively that something was “objectively true”.

• You have no credibility and are in over your head when it comes to this... Woah. It seems like Aaron has more experience than Grey on UAP.

• I get it you want to support your lady. Assigning motive to ssomeone else, perhaps like he does to his Partner Henchman.

• Attack me all you want this isnt me fighting or aggressing. Aaron and Stellar are on defence, but Grey is good at inversion.

• I set boundaries and stood up for myself. Defended myself. Inversion

• Are you saying I'm reframing it and I was the aggressor? Yes inversion

• You should go back and look how this went down. I know, I have checked. Grey had a tantrum as Stellar criticised his methodology and he has been having a tantrum ever since.

• I literally wish yall the best. Mr Reasonable propaganda

• but don't support actual satanists Grey’s actions suggest he works for them, knowingly or unknowingly.

• and I don't support people selling out survivors or causing damage. Grey has caused more damage to survivors than anyone else.

• Again you're in over your head. Aarons specialist subject. BS claim.

• If you want to address a specific specific issue I'm more than willing... Mr Reasonable propaganda

• this isnt me attacking by a long shot. LOL Grey might convince himself but not others. Yes he can attack worse, but he is still attacking.

• I'm not angry and I don't hate y'all. Mr. Semi Reasonable, he acts as though he does.

• I didn't aggress. He did, plenty of evidence.

• I set a boundary and I defended myself when a grossly misrepresented version of events was told. He weaponised a boundary to try and invert the dynamic, after mild justifiable criticism that was tiny compared to what he doles out, lying, daily.

• Frame it out you want man whatever. Just be honest, do is all a favor. Aaron is way more honest than Grey. You decide.

• Grey pretends that he is Mr Reasonable - responsible, and respectful, and de-escalates, not the aggressor, is not attacking, does not hate them, just defends himself and sets boundaries, and de-escalates. It’s not what I see. It’s just part of his manipulation strategy of onlookers, to portray himself like that. He is really Mr. Angry, the attacker, the aggressor, the abuser who calls peoples names and accuses everyone else of being what he is, whilst he claims to be Mr. Reasonable. What Grey says is absurd to many who have dealt with him or even watched him tweet at people.

• Grey is not the aggressor he says, but it is him who starting this argument back up. He keeps going back to “defending” himself against attacks, which even if he perceived StellarFox16’s constructive criticism was, it was dealt with weeks ago. Besides he was not being attacked, it was fair and constructive criticism, on a point that many others said the same, and yet Grey framed that as an attack and being on the side of oppressors. HE is the attacker, again and again.

• Grey is just in a loop and keeps repeating himself, and he will not accept any responsibility for his own actions no matter how many people tell him that his methodology is counter productive, and that he is the aggressor in most situations. He is either incapable of seeing that or refuses to accept it, but as he would say it is objectively true.

Context

Aaron’s 3.1 04.01am

Aaron replied in Grey Operator’s “boundaries” thread

Aaron’s 3.1 Text

• lol. Nice word salad. Basically all you just did is use a lot of words to go “nuh-uhhhhhh.”

• And I don’t need to take another look at the DMs my dude - I was sitting right there next to her while y’all were DMing. I know exactly how it went down.

• And again: I clocked you *first*. I told her that you set off red flags. But I wasn’t *sure* sure yet. So when she asked me to give you the benefit of the doubt, I did. And for a while I trusted you. But you kept on setting off those alarms. Kept on saying one things in DMs and then another thing publicly. Kept on pushing those buttons. Kept on trying to hide in those blind spots. But I see you. Know that.

• And by running scared: I meant how you dropped one reply to Kaity, which was just a bunch of non-answer sidestep DARVO nonsense, and then blocked her. But I think you know that already. Or maybe you don’t. I don’t actually care. And I’m done wasting my life on someone who continues to set off every alarm I have.

• So - bye. And like I said in my post to you - back off. Do *your* self a favor: quit your little butthurt subtweets. You’re not as sneaky as you think you are. Move on. You keep saying that’s all you want, and yet the subtweets just keep rolling in.

Aaron’s 3.1 Analysis

Aaron is quite clear, so I won’t go through each point. In general…

• Aaron’s description of Grey’s behaviour is consistent with what others who have dealt with Grey say, who have tried to put a point across that Grey disagrees with. He is manipulative and uses various techniques - pushing buttons, saying different things, sub tweets, playing the victim.

• Aaron, specifically answers the point where he accused Grey of running scared, that he meant when Grey blocked Kaity / Stellar straight after Grey’s DARVO tactics, not what Grey mentioned about Aaron having blocking him.

• Aaron says that Grey’s behaviour can be seen through. It can. Really easily when people have the knowledge that people like Grey exist, that there are many called dark personalities / psychopaths / narcisisists / machiavellians / sadists and they use a playbook of largely the same techniques. Dr. Mitchell has outlined these techniques and gathered the personalities into one overarching personality - predator personalities Attributes and Tactics of Dark Personalities / Persistent Predatory Personalities, [fb32495]. The more people that study the tactics and attributes, the more people can spot these personalities, the more they can spot and avoid the tactics.

Context

Aaron 3.2 in Grey’s “boundaries” thread

Aaron 3.2 Text

• Oh and another thing: you’re using the same tactics Brad does. “I don’t argue with survivors” actually means: “I don’t want to have to address these actions that I took, so I’ll create a false “high ground” to get around an actual dialogue.

Aaron 3.2 Text Analysis

• Aaron “I don’t argue with survivors” actually means: “I don’t want to have to address these actions that I took, so I’ll create a false “high ground” to get around an actual dialogue. This is definitely a repeated technique of Grey’s. I might use the ‘false high ground” phrase in future.

Grey 3.2 in Grey’s “boundaries” thread

Grey Operator 3.2 Text

• One of you says Brad was right about me. One of you says I am like Brad. Disgusting.

• I'm not using any tactic. I'm being honest. Are you? With yourself? With the public concerning your statements? It's not in my heart to fight with survivors. Can y'all say that on your side? I try to work things out. Even when Katy came on my page saying messed up things I was very respectful with my reply. This isn't me fighting at all. I'm not looking for 'high ground'... this isnt a game to me.

• Where im from if I said something to someone's significant other like what was said to me... I'd never continue on like nothing happened. That's insane to me. I'm well within reason to set a boundary and defend myself. Call it what you want. Happy to have a civil conversation about any specific point. But if you come with some BS like this I'll just block you, like you had me after your lady attacked me and after yall wrote all that BS... call it running if you want. Youre not my enemy and I'm not yours. Even if me setting a boundary and calling out the truth upsets you

Grey Operator 3.2 Text Analysis

• Grey - “I'm not using any tactic. I'm being honest. Are you? With yourself? With the public concerning your statements?” Oh my. Brazen lies from Grey Operator. He is using a variety of the propaganda and control and manipulation techniques of dark personalities - I will include screenshots at the end for people to make up their own minds.

• Grey - “It's not in my heart to fight with survivors.” Yet another lie - Grey fights with survivors all the time, whilst lying that he does not, to create false impression for public consumption. Note use of emotive language, “not in my heart”.

• Grey - This isn't me fighting at all.” Yet another lie. He is fighting but pretending not to, for public consumption. He started up the fight again with blatant subtweets in April. He just lies and lies, reframes and reframes.

• Grey - “I'm not looking for 'high ground'... this isnt a game to me.” Yet another lie. It’s a game which Grey plays all the time. He is trained in it by the luciferians. Lie lie lie and pretend for public consumption that he does not. Yes he does play the “high moral ground” card all the time and it is false high moral ground.

• Grey - “Where im from if I said something to someone's significant other like what was said to me... I'd never continue on like nothing happened. That's insane to me. Grey’s control of communications between Emma and Stellar. Dark personalities need to isolate people. It also appears that he is trying to create this into a boundary, that Stellar is not allowed to talk to Emma without either sorting the issue out with him, or discussing the situation with him to Emma. That is not a personal boundary, it’s control which he is trying to hide as a code, a boundary, high ground, whatever he can grasp at and can get away with.

• I'm well within reason to set a boundary and defend myself. Call it what you want.” I did call it previously, I called it “fabricated honourable code of conduct” to cover control of others relationships he has just fallen out with.

• “Happy to have a civil conversation about any specific point.” Another lie to appear Mr. Reasonable for public consumption.

• “But if you come with some BS like this I'll just block you.” Grey of course decides what is BS and what is not.

• “Even if me setting a boundary and calling out the truth upsets you”. It’s generally his control, manipulation, reframing, lies and false accusations that upset people. Nice try at reframing.

Aaron 3.3 continues in Grey' Operator’s “boundaries” thread

Aaron 3.3 Text

• Bro - I’m just calling it like I see it. Yes - you’re using the same tactics as Brad. “I don’t argue with women,” that’s Brad. “I don’t argue with survivors,” that’s you.

• Different words, with the same goal: creating a false high ground to avoid an actual dialogue. See, you do this thing where you *say* you’re open to dialogue, but then you just DARVO instead. You’re doing it *right now* with the comment I’m actively replying to.

• And if you *truly* don’t see that, then you have a lot of work on yourself to do. And I don’t care what a person has survived, when I see red-flag behavior, I’m gonna call it out. I’ve been burned by too many people too many times. NO ONE gets a free pass from me, because what a person has been through doesn’t give them an excuse to act some sort of way.

Aaron 3.3 Text Analysis

• “I don’t argue with survivors,” that’s you.” Grey has actually said in the past that he does not argue with women or survivors, both are lies.

• Grey is “creating a false high ground to avoid an actual dialogue”. I agree.

• “you do this thing where you *say* you’re open to dialogue, but then you just DARVO instead.” Yes he says he is open to dialogue for public appearances sake, but in reality he plays the victim and accuses the victim of being the offender. Standard Grey Area Operator behaviour.

• “And if you *truly* don’t see that, then you have a lot of work on yourself to do.” Who knows what Grey perceives, or how much he knows that he is working for the negative side. But he is, and yes he has much work to do.

• “And I don’t care what a person has survived, when I see red-flag behavior, I’m gonna call it out.” Aaron says he will call out red flag behaviour irrespective of their previous experiences. I think that a stage is reached where the survivor code of support has to give way to truth being told.

StellarFox16 5.0 04.05am

This was more an announcement from StellarFox16 to other people / survivors on twitterx about the StellarFox16 / Grey situation. This was on her own timeline, fresh thread, “abuse tactics” thread.

https://x.com/StellarFox16/status/1913066399259361698

Stellar 5.0 Text 2025 Apr 18

• This is what I’m going to say about greyareamonarch being a liar who uses abuse tactics.

• You don’t have to pick sides. You don’t have to choose who you believe.

• But I’ll tell you, someone who cries victim at someone asking them to explain constant inconsistencies

• and their constant involvement in drama

• that DOES get others involved

• (like the year long harassing and stalking I went through)

• and says they are being attacked over questions - is sketch.

• I’ll never not speak my mind when you are perpetuating drama that is pulling in survivors.

• When you are so obsessed with online drama and lie about me? It makes me wonder what else you lie about.

• I was going to keep it private. But if you make posts and want to lie, when you were once a friend, nah.

• Also - curious how THE SECOND I started getting louder on here and met grey, I found a radio in my yard, and started having all sorts of property theft, damage and a death threat.

• That grey said, on the phone to my worried husband at the time, “used to do and organize himself”

• But no, you don’t have to choose. And I will still talk to all of you if you still want to interact. Even if grey has issue with that. Controlling people will never be satiated until they control your communications, too.

• Anyways…

Stellar 5.0 Text Analysis

• “This is what I’m going to say about greyareamonarch being a liar who uses abuse tactics”. Yes lies very often, and uses abuse tactics.

• “You don’t have to pick sides. You don’t have to choose who you believe”. The opposite to Grey’s controlling

• “But I’ll tell you, someone who cries victim at someone asking them to explain constant inconsistencies” Yes he plays the victim, being saying this for years, and yes when he is asked to explain inconsistencies.

• “and their constant involvement in drama” Yes he constantly gets involved in drama, he appears fixated with it.

• “that DOES get others involved” yes he quite deliberately drags others survivors into his dramas, it is a tactic. He now has to use sock puppet accounts less as it has been exposed that he uses them, so he pulls in survivors by a variety of methods.

• (like the year long harassing and stalking I went through) - Some of Stellar’s harrassment and stalking is fabricated by her, but she was acting under Grey’s grooming. She need not have got involved if she had acted differently. Other survivors should learn from this and not get involved with Grey, despite any intimidation.

• and says they are being attacked over questions - is sketch. Yes the inversion that Grey makes that he is “attacked” by justified and constructive criticism is laughable, but he gets away with it usually.

• I’ll never not speak my mind when you are perpetuating drama that is pulling in survivors. Fair enough

• When you are so obsessed with online drama and lie about me? It makes me wonder what else you lie about. Yes as Stellar, Aaron, Brad, Veronica, myself and others know 100% that Grey lies about us, then what else has he lied about. Is he even lying about his testimony and having left the luciferian system?

• I was going to keep it private. But if you make posts and want to lie, when you were once a friend, nah. Stellar was going to keep it private, but Grey posted publicly and lied so she also posted in public. Dark personalities like to keep things private about them, but love causing drama in public about others.

• Also - curious how THE SECOND I started getting louder on here and met grey, I found a radio in my yard, and started having all sorts of property theft, damage and a death threat. Stellar noticed that TI type harassment started going on exactly when she started disclosing what abuse had happened to her.

• That grey said, on the phone to my worried husband at the time, “used to do and organize himself”. When Aaron was discussing it with Grey, he admitted that he used to organise and carry out similar TI operations.

• But no, you don’t have to choose. And I will still talk to all of you if you still want to interact. Stellar does not state, unlike Grey, that she will interact with whoever wants to interact with her.

• Even if grey has issue with that. Controlling people will never be satiated until they control your communications, too. Yes controlling, when they lose control of a person, control the people around that person and control what people think of that person. That’s just the way they are.

• Anyways… I concur through personal experience that Grey is a liar, uses abuse[r] tactics, plays victim when asked to explain, as well as many other times, that he is obsessed with online drama, that Grey perpetuating the drama pulls in survivors, which he does actively and passively and yes Grey does control people’s relationship with others.

• I was not aware prior to Aaron and StellarFox16 saying so, that Grey used to orchestrate the TI type gangstalking. However that totally fits into his current behaviour that I have detailed about his gangstalking, sock puppets and use of AI to coordinate it on twitter. I have said that he is a one man gangstalking unit and apparently now it is revealed that he had a history of doing this for the luciferians offline.

• Whilst Grey is undoubtedly chiefly to blame for drama and pulling survivors in actively and passively, then survivors including StellarFox16, should have been checking the evidence and should not have blindly accepted Grey Operator’s word as truthful or factual. As StellarFox16 has now found out belatedly, Grey Operator is a serial liar.

Grey’s 3.3 04.18am

This was a quote tweet and reply on the Grey’s own “boundaries” thread.

Grey’s 3.3 Text

Surprised to see y'all so angry you're willing to be dishonest to attack. Glad you're defending your woman but you don't have to be dishonest to do that. This isn't productive. I said what needed to be said before y'all flipped. I stand by it all.

Grey’s 3.3 Text Analysis

• “Surprised to see y'all so angry”. Grey frames others as angry - and the inference is that he is calm. Grey is then able to put forward their anger as the reason why they are being dishonest and attacking him.

• “you're willing to be dishonest to attack” There is however no evidence that the people accused are particularly angry, nor being dishonest.

• “Glad you're defending your woman” Cheap shot diminishing what Aaron says as just to agree with his wife.

• “but you don't have to be dishonest to do that”’. Vague accusations of dishonesty rather than specifics. Grey does this when he does not want to answer, but wants to act as though he is in the right.

• This isn't productive. The out. Playing Mr. Reasonable, whilst not answering and about to drop out as it’s getting a bit close to being accountable.

• “I said what needed to be said before y'all flipped. I stand by it all.” Grey said this before

• Grey needed to come up with a narrative that is superficially plausible to those watching, who will not bother to investigate. Grey is trained in propaganda. He wants to portray himself as truthful, his opponents and dishonest and so frames them as angry, so as to make it more plausible that they might be dishonest. It’s a narrative he has formulated to make them look bad and himself as Mr. Reasonable.

• Grey says that he has said all the needed. With that he excuses himself from answering any points. This is why people say he runs away which he does after he has said his piece repetitively.

Grey 3.4 04.47am

Grey quote tweeted from his own “boundaries” thread and and attached a screenshot from Stellar’s post 5.0 “abuse tactics”.

https://x.com/GreyAreaMonarch/status/1913076867277455669

Attached Screenshot

• When you are so obsessed with online drama and lie about me? It makes me wonder what else you lie about.

• I was going to keep it private. But if you make posts and want to lie, when you were once a friend, nah.

• Also - curious how THE SECOND I started getting louder on here and met grey, I found a radio in my yard, and started having all sorts of property theft, damage and a death threat.

• That grey said, on the phone to my worried husband at the time, “used to do and organize himself”

• But no, you don’t have to choose. And I will still talk to all of you if you still want to interact. Even if grey has issue with that. Controlling people will never be satiated until they control your communications, too.

• Anyways…

Summary Grey 3.4 Text

Over the quoted post... people flipping out. That's fine... but what is not fine, is complete lies, gross misrepresentations, and false insinuations - like shown the screenshot. Absolutely ridiculous. I am dumbfounded at the vicious attacks and lies being told. Yo W T F right now. I cant believe this is even real! Weird, and disgusting.

Summary Grey 3.4 Text Analysis

• 20 minutes before this tweet Grey said that he had said all that he needed to say, but here he is, laying it on thick again. Grey is repeating his framing. Repetition is important for propaganda, but also taking it one stage further.

• Over the quoted post... people flipping out. That's fine... Grey plays Mr Reasonable that they have flipped, but says it’s fine so that he appears understanding and magnanimous.

• Over the quoted post... people flipping out. Grey says that they have flipped, but of course Grey provides no real evidence. He is framing them as having flipped so as to give the impression that what they are talking about is incorrect. He does for once provide a relevant screenshot of what he is talking about, but does not say which part he is referring to, StellarFox16’s Response 3.0. Stellar had experienced Grey lying and Grey lies a great deal, that is documented and numerous people will testify to that. Stellar said that Grey lying makes her wonder what else he has lied about. That is understandable. She says that she had been having property theft, a radio in the yard, damage and a death threat. Stellar then links that to Grey having told her partner Aaron that Grey used to organise what I will classify as TI gangstalking type activities.

• but what is not fine, is complete lies, gross misrepresentations, and false insinuations - like shown the screenshot. Absolutely ridiculous. Are they lies and false insinuations? Even if they were that is Grey’s standard technique, so it would be just returning some back to him. I don’t think they are doing that though. I think it is what Stellar and Aaron heard and experienced from Grey, which fits in with other information.

• I am dumbfounded at the vicious attacks and lies being told. Grey plays the uber victim - ridiculous, dumbfounded, vicious attacks and lies, can’t believe it’s real, weird, disgusting. Grey is way overacting, playing the drama queen. This is clear to those who are familiar with his behaviour, but surely it must appear that way even to those that don’t know him as well, with this level of faux victimhood? Perhaps his hyperbole fools them, as people may reason that no-one would play the victim that much if they were not innocent. Wrong! It’s standard predatory personality behaviour.

• Yo W T F right now. I cant believe this is even real! Weird, and disgusting. More drama queenery.

• Stellar’s line of thought appears to that she went public with her story, met Grey, he lives half hour away, Aaron says that Grey said that he used to organise TI type gangstalking, she had strange things happening, he turns out to be a serial liar, wonders if he is still working for the system and did he arrange those things? That is certainly plausible and with at least some evidence, albeit circumstantial.

• Should Stellar had said made the insinuations that he did those things and was to do with the death threats? In my opinion, no, even in understandable frustration at Grey’s behaviour. There needs to be more evidence than that to make public insinuations. However Grey routinely makes far worse accusations with even less evidence so he has zero room to talk. For him to play the dumbfounded, butter wouldn’t melt in his mouth, innocent is laughable. He has made many threats, including death threats. By dramatically overreacting to the accusation like Grey did, it appears as though Grey “doth protest too much”.

• As Grey apparently finds it so distasteful to be accused with little direct evidence, then he should produce all the evidence for all his accusations that everyone is a satanist, including Veronica and myself, never mind all his other false accusations. He cannot produce proof of course, as he is lying, so he can apologise profusely instead. He should also apologise to each of those that he has falsely accused of anything, and to all those he has issued threats to. He should also stop the crocodile tears about StellarFox16’s circumstantial evidence and insinuation, bearing in mind that his own attacks on others are far worse. One of Grey’s strongest attributes is that he is a superb hypocrite.

Context

Discussion

This record of collated messages and interactions is valuable as it can be seen how Grey Operator operates, which is in line with all the other dark predatory personalities.

The background to all this is that Grey aggressively confronts all sorts of people that he disagrees with for one reason or another and he frames it as “calling people out”. In March 2025 Stellar criticised Grey for this technique as being counter productive and that it played into the enemies hands, whilst making clear that she still supported him. Grey objected to this criticism and set a “boundary” that there was to be no criticism / discussion of this on his timeline but that it should be taken to private discussion. As requested StellarFox16 went into DM’s to discuss. He clearly shut this down, whilst maintaining the facade in public that he is reasonable and reframing the whole dispute is his favour.

The following month, April, after the initial disagreement had died down Grey then instigated a new round. He started off with general subtweets, but then became more and more obvious who he was talking about. No doubt he had worked on his twitter AI apps, that if he did so, he would be able to influence more people in his favour. He moved on from general subtweets to giving a no win choice to Stellar and Aaron. Either they let Grey Area Operator create a false public narrative framing of them, or rebut it and start interactions with someone whose only interest is to make them look bad and himself look good, and who is trained and experienced at it. If they reply directly on his timeline with his deliberate provocation, then they are breaking his “boundary” thus he is able to tell spout more propaganda to his audience in a one sided manner.

These tweets and messages are more proof of Grey’s control and manipulation. The The screenshot that Stellar produced does not show that Stellar had escalated in DM’s as Grey had claimed. This is a good example with proof of Grey Area Operator framing wrongly and dishonestly in public an event that was in private. He did this to control people’s assessment of StellarFox16 and make himself out as the victim, and Mr. Reasonable which is the opposite to reality. He is a calculating and practised manipulator.

However it is clear to see how Grey Area operates. Framing, reframing, taking no responsibility, turning everything on the people who made valid criticisms of his aggressive and divisive methods. Grey Operator himself said that multiple people had criticised him, so it was not just StellarFox16 yet Grey still takes no responsibility for his aggression, his attacks, his methodology, his adding fuel to the fire, his dividing survivors, his obvious control and manipulation of people, his continuous lies or his inversions. He is the propagandist and psyopper, he is the programmer and handler, he is the organised gang stalker and he always blames everyone else.

Worst Case Scenario Framing According to What Grey Area Operator says.

Just for the sake of discussion, I am not saying this was the truth, I would say this is far from the truth, but as an exercise, for discussion purposes the following appears to be approximately the worst scenario that Grey is saying that StellarFox16 and Aaron did to him and accused him of.

<Stellar crossed a boundary of Grey’s by commenting something negative on GreyAreaMonarch’s timeline, and said that his actions help abusers. Grey wanted it discussed in private and he tried but StellarFox16 got angry and it was not sorted, so he refused to discuss it any more and blocked her. Stellar showed a lack of respect to Grey by speaking to his wife, without mentioning the fall out. The disagreement spilt over onto public twitter a bit and there was a bit of back and forth, but then went it quiet for a month. Grey brought it all up a month later out of the blue, to defend himself again, and so it all started up again. Stellar then commented that TI type stuff had been happening since she disclosed around their house and insinuated that he might have been responsible for that and a possible death threat that she received. Grey was disgusted and dumbfounded that such nasty, vicious and spiteful accusations could be made against him, and thinks it’s weird and can’t believe it’s real.

Grey also says that Stellar’s husband Aaron is nasty as well. He is out of his depth, angry and dishonest, lied and attacks Grey despite Grey not being the aggressor. He backstabbed Grey about a UAP influencer and acted in a cowardly manner.>

That appears to be just about all the bad stuff that Stellar and Aaron are meant to have done, but of course it is Grey’s framing, reframing and propaganda of the spat and it did not happen like this. This is a propaganda psyop, that Grey is fully trained in, to isolate and discredit StellarFox16 and Aaron because, having left his control and influence, they could damage him further.

LOL. What’s he like? It seems that they touched a nerve. That is the worst case scenario, and Grey Operator is squealing like a stuck pig. It’s a fraction of what Grey Operator routinely deals out to many people.

• Grey has made several death threats

• Grey has made a huge number of false accusations

• Grey lies constantly

• Grey makes far worse accusations with much less evidence, so for him to play the dumbfounded, disgusted, butter wouldn’t melt in his mouth innocent is a joke. By dramatically overreacting as he has done, it appears as though Grey “doth protest too much”.

• If Grey Operator really finds it so distasteful to be accused with little direct evidence, then he should produce all the evidence for all his accusations that everyone is a satanist, including Veronica and myself. In lieu of evidence then profuse apologies to each and every one he has accused falsely.

• Grey really needs to cut out the crocodile tears about StellarFox16’s circumstantial evidence and insinuation. Above many things Grey is a superb hypocrite.

Remember how Grey started this. He subtweeted…

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• that people should not get baited, then proceeds to bait Stellar and Aaron

• says that people should not feed into the divide and conquering, which is exactly what he did.

• he said to face the true oppressors not your fellows, whilst facing his fellows not the oppressors.

His actions were the exact opposite of his words.

Again.

Why?

Grey essentially threw a tantrum over mild criticism of his tactics. He lays into people with unevidenced and false accusations almost every day, although of late, no doubt due to this dispute, he has vastly reduced his tweeting by over 90%. He frames this as pivoting to video.

The biggest question mark for people to take away is StellarFox16’s question of how anyone knows if Grey has left the network?

How does anyone know? The answer is that we don’t.

We only have his words. There is not much that indicates that he has, apart from his own hollow words. His actions divide survivors, advocates and groups of supporters of various high profile influencers and entrenching their positions - the actions of a chaos agent.

Then the eye opener, that was not all that shocking bearing in mind his behaviour, is that he used to carry out and stalking of Targeted Individuals. He has not changed much, and appears to be still working for the luciferians. I would guess knowingly although he might be operating under nefarious alters.

Tactics and Attributes of Dark Personalities

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Grey Operator is like a footballer diving for penalty when the other player didn’t even touch him. Then lies and lies and lies about it, and claims the person who stayed standing, dived.

Previous Posts about Grey Area Operator and StellarFox16

• Grey Area Monarch's Flying Monkey StellarFox16 [SSSF1]

• Flying Monkey Fallout 1 StellarFox16 Blocked Grey Area Monarch [SSGM44]

• Grey Area Operator Restarted Beef with his ex Flying Monkey StellarFox16 Part 1 [SSGM54]

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ends 04.47 am April 18 2025