GreyAreaMonarch and Sarah Moch 2

Introduction

This is the second of my posts of my DM’s with GreyAreaMonarch in which Sarah Moch is mentioned. It also includes some of their public twitterx interactions.

My first post showed that Sarah Moch and Paula Blades were some of the first people that GreyAreaMonarch contacted after he came online in late 2022, in the same year as his Ebike business finished. He gave interviews for the bike business in that year under his own name and showing his face. The post also showed that from his first ever contact with me, he had lied about his interactions with Sarah Moch and downplayed the extent that he had contact with her. It showed the public tweets between them until April 1 2023, when he first contacted me, GreyAreaMonarch and Sarah Moch [SSGM38].

This second post will show some more of my DM’s with GreyAreaMonarch about Sarah Moch and some of their interactions in public on twitter after April 1 2023.

GreyAreaMonarch’s DM’s with me about Sarah Moch

These were some more of GreyAreaMonarch’s DM’s with me where the subject of Sarah came up. This first screenshot is just for introductory context, in which GreyAreaMonarch claims that he has “no problems with anyone unless they promote or defend bullshit, I’m actually very nice”. Judge that for yourselves.

GreyAreaMonarch’s messages are in the light blue, mine are in the dark blue.

I have seen nothing to back up that statement from Grey, as I do not “promote or defend bullshit” and he has talked more bullshit about me, and many many others, than anyone else I have ever communicated with in my life. However that sort of comment from Grey is standard when dealing with this abusive individual.

I therefore replied that he believed bullshit from Sarah Moch, and that he was on a path of division. There is a mass of her lies shown via this index, Index of Posts about Sarah Moch [SSSMIn].

Grey claimed “Nothing did I know from her, you fucking idiot”.

Almost Shakespearian! This of course must be taken in the context of him already having lied about how much he had spoken to Sarah. Also note the further ad hominem attack, “you fucking idiot”.

Grey then started haranguing me about Jessie again, trying to intimidate me. He wanted me to “remove her name” or “put up an unbias articleM” [sic].

This was just yet another Sarah Moch talking point, who always wanted me to “correct” my articles, but she never suggested which sections or what with. This tweet was from March 2023. She alleged mistakes but she never found any, nor provided any evidence.

Moch and the Grey Monarch were always keen for me to spend time writing an article about Jessie that would say what they wanted me to say. Why did they not just write an article, themselves? I never could understand that, apart from to suggest that, like I did above, that they were not capable of doing so.

Of course Grey did not respond to my suggestion that he should write an article. He responded by saying that he couldn’t stand Sarah, “Dude I can’t stand Sarah”. He seemed to find the idea so abhorrent that he told me “Fuck off”.

Abuse from Grey Area Monarch, as readers will have gathered, is normal in a “conversation” with the persona known as Grey Area Monarch. His comment that he could not stand Sarah was just yet another lie to me.

I said to him that he wanted me to refute other peoples words, but no-one had proved anything about Jessie, it was just their opinion. Previously I had already made it clear that I did not want to discuss Jessie with him, and I said that I would not say anything. This was because from experience, in conversation with him or the Moch mob, I knew that they would try to twist anything they said to their own narrative. I was already clued up to some of his and the Moch mob’s methods.

You think I should refute other people’s words, yet you have proved 0% as [have] your Sarah Moch friends despite all their time. If I say something it gets twisted so I say nothing.

He had said earlier that nothing he knew was from Sarah, but then had had to admit, that one of the screenshots that he had used was actually hers.

Then I told him that he was just repeating Sarah’s talking points, which was met with another tirade of abuse…

“you fucking moron”

“you fucking hack”

“I’ll reply to your idioicy [sic] later.”

I hope readers get a flavour of what it is like talking to the persona of Grey Area Monarch. Having to put up with completely unnecessary and continual abuse gets to be hard work and wearing. This may well be purposeful and a manipulation tactic.

On the theme of getting Grey to express what he wanted to express, rather than him pressuring and coercing me to write what he wanted to say, I suggested to him, that he should write an affidavit, “…why don’t you and Sarah and the rest all put their stories of Jessie in affidavits?”

A reasonable question I thought, if they actually are so motivated as to try and give their view about Jessie.

Grey Area Monarch made no response to that suggestion, apart from to suggest that Sarah had probably harassed me.

Discussion

GreyAreaMonarch’s DM’s with me about Sarah show more of his abusive nature, that is standard with this person. This post also shows more of his lies about the true extent about how much he communicated with Sarah Moch.

He kept using Sarah Moch’s talking points about Jessie which was bizarre. If he really did have evidence to back up his claims, then it should not have been even necessary. GreyAreaMonarch has claimed that he had a higher spiritual position in the spiritual hierarchy as a child than anyone who had spoken out. That was in June of 2023.

He also claimed that his group had infiltrated everywhere they could be and everywhere they needed to be.

If this was true, why did GreyAreaMonarch even need to rely on Sarah Moch’s talking points, or even misinterpreting Jessie’s own tweets? He should have had a plethora of his own information about Jessie from his own sources, and they would have been independent of the dubious Sarah Moch who was ignorant about the luciferian brotherhood.

Far from producing his own evidence that he claimed to have, Grey was actually desperate to get hold of Sarah Moch’s efforts at dissing Jessie and anyone who had shown support. He asked her to put her information on a drive for him to download.

I knew approximately what her drive contained, as she had a public Telegram group spreading her output. Due to her ignorance of mind control, ritual abuse, the luciferian brotherhood and survivors in general, then 95% of the information she spouted was nonsense. To illustrate just how little Sarah understands of the system, she thought that the antichrist was elected, Moch’s Myths 1 - Sarah's Antichrist Election Idiocy [SSMM1]. The Devil is democratic, lol! She is adamant that Jessie did not come from the system, whereas GreyAreaMonarch thought she did.

Furthermore GreyAreaMonarch asked Sarah Moch for her dirt, on the very same day, than he had told me that he could not stand Sarah “…I can’t stand Sarah”'. Just 5 hours later. How duplicitous can one person get? He is either lying to me, lying to Sarah or lying to both.

GreyAreaMonarch also claimed that “Results are the recognition” and that soon much would be recognised. “Soon” was 18 months ago, and that claim has proved fruitless. He has produced no results, apart from the division of survivors.

Which side is GreyAreaMonarch on? He joined twitter and soon allied with anti-survivors Sarah Moch and Paula Blades. He claimed that he was inside The Satanic Temple, he claimed that he was spying on them but has never released anything. He claimed to be everywhere needed to be. But for what purpose? Remember that he is tricky with words, he is a trained programmer, handler, psyopper and propagandist.

Why was Grey even working with these people who were anti-survivor? Paula and Sarah appear to despise survivors. One openly mocks all MK Ultra survivors and one says she needed to see concrete evidence before believing any of them, and who ran the group that acted as a hate group against survivors. These were among the very first people that Grey Area Monarch contacted when he came onto twitter in fall 2022. Unusual actions for someone claiming to be a survivor. Another person he contacted soon after coming on twitter was Lucien Greaves, founder of the The Satanic Temple.

Who is Grey Area Monarch working for and who with?

Results are the recognition he said. The results of Grey Area Monarch’s actions have been division among survivors and division amongst survivor advocates. That has been driven by him, day after day under the fakery of calling out satanists. He divides survivors and he gatekeeps survivors under the pretence of safeguarding them. More people are recognising him for what he is. A chaos agent. His supposed intel is a sham, he produces none. Far from producing any new information he just spouts more and more unevidenced slurs.

Far from top secret intel, GreyAreaMonarch recycles Sarah Moch’s mix of gossip, misunderstanding, misinformation and bigotry from someone who does not understand survivors nor the luciferian brotherhood and thinks the antichrist is elected!

Grey has no information that Veronica or myself are luciferians, or satanists like he falsely accuses. He lies, libels and defames with glee and without evidence. He is a very sick and twisted individual.

GreyAreaMonarch is a dark personality who will go to any lengths to control and manipulate people for his own reasons. The reasons appear to be to cause division and chaos. It seems he is still under mind control and is working for the luciferians, with his cover story being that he is a whistleblower.

Was that his deal when he was released from prison?

The section for tweets between Sarah and Grey is quite long, I have put it into an appendix, with some additional comments.

Appendix 1

Timeline of some of Sarah and Grey’s Public Tweet Exchanges

GreyAreaMonarch first contacted me on April 1 2023. It was then that he told me that he did not know Sarah nor care for her much. Then within minutes he changed his story to that he had only had two short conversation with her. I showed however that he had had many conservations with her on different days, GreyAreaMonarch and Sarah Moch [SSGM38]. This proved that GreyAreaMonarch had lied to me from his very first contact with me.

After the date, April 1 covered in the last post, GreyAreaMonarch continued contacts with Sarah Moch, eg. 2023 Apr 4, Apr 18, Jun 20, Jun 24, Jun 26, Oct 13, Oct 16, Oct 17, Oct 20, Oct 22, Oct 25, Nov 3,

He then went on to tell me that he could not stand Sarah, but on the same day, asked for a drive of her information about Jessie and others.

Sarah Moch’s account was suspended permanently from TwitterX 2.0. for being a troll, so most of her tweets and her side of the conversations are not now available.

These are just the tweets re. Sarah Moch, the tweets about Jessie and myself, will be in separate posts.

2023 Apr 4

Grey claims to hate the infighting, but he always causes it. He claims that his worry was that survivors would be discredited by outrageous claims. He himself is causing more pushback to survivors than anyone else.

2023 Apr 18

2023 Jun 20

Joking with Sarah about food. Seems quite friendly with her.

2023 Jun 24

Claimed to have apprenticed under mortician necromancer alchemists. Playing games with OrganizeSafety using it as an attack account.

2023 Jun 26

Casting aspersions about me, Veronica or both, claiming he is going to “bring the hammer down” on us, and that is was “gonna to be ugly”.

I have never taken money, and Veronica only has a small paywall to keep out trolls like him and the Moch mob, one of which made 50 complaints about her twitter at once and wanted her deplatformed. He never reached out respectfully to me, he lied from the first day.

2023 Jul 3

He claims to someone that “Sarah and that crew are a reaction to unreasonable action” and that they were both wrong. To Grey everyone is wrong but him and those that he arranges to protect him.

Someone blocked Grey and he immediately calls them a “likely perpetrator”. This is Grey’s MO of bullying, control and manipulation.

2023 Sept 14

See Jessie, Me and that Photo [SSJ1] and Jessie's Tweets to Satanists [SSJ2]

Grey claims that Jessie comes from the “satanic/luciferian infiltrators and PR group”.

That’s his gossip, where is the evidence he claims to have?

This is the tweet he asks Sarah Moch, to post him her information.

Why does the supposed highest level luciferian defector with access to top level info and having long term infiltrated everyone, who has chat logs of TST /grey faction logs need a gossip girls information?

2023 Sept 15

Sarah spouting forth from her position of ignorance about the luciferian brotherhood, ritual abuse, mind control and survivors…

2023 Oct 13

This was GreyAreaMonarch during his month long gang stalking of survivor Tom Althouse, trying to behaviourally modify. Grey spread lies without evidence to Sarah who knows no better about people being part of The Satanic Temple and Grey Faction.

Grey as a trained propagandist mixes truth with lies. Note use of word crazy.

Sarah thinks her evidence is irrefutable and that others have not researched her properly.

2023 Oct 16

Note use of Organize Safety again as attack account. Causing more unnecessary division with David Zublick. On his high horse about arguing with girls, something he calls people out for but he does far worse to girls, and he seems to regards them as inferior.

Grey Area Monarch is the one who seems to play the opposition. Calls everyone out for what he does.

2023 Oct 17

More allegations with no evidence.

He does this alot, playing to peoples prejudices and biases pretending he knows more information but never producing it. He knows the gossip girl will lap up his lies, he is a luciferian trained propagandist.

2023 Oct 20

In a thread with Sarah and fellow psyopper George Bailey, who never says a word against him.

Claiming he was doxxed is one of his favourite techniques to control and manipulate, despite appearing in interviews in 2022 under his own name and showing his face. It’s all an act. He has also doxxed other survivors and is a total hypocrite, and danger to survivors.

He claims he is just calling satanists out, but he is making false accusations.

Always diminishing others work, here Tom Althouse’s The Matrix and making himself out to be the hero. Typical dark personality behaviour.

Here GreyAreaMonarch uses his “talking online to avoid bloodshed routine”

It’s partly a veiled threat and partly a “look at me, I know it all” type comment. Another threat with the “military brothers are going to want to talk to him” comment. You could easily say they will want to talk to Grey when they find out that he is still working for the luciferians.

2023 Oct 22

His oft used “I am just a bit abrasive” routine, which his fans have quoted back to me, as being true. This is one he uses in private alot. It’s a lie, he threatens people, gangstalks, gaslights and programmes them.

He “told Zubrick off” - you use this language to children not other adults. It reveals how he thinks. He thinks he is superior to everyone, but his own behaviour is far worse than anyone else’s that I know.

2023 Oct 25

“Alot of these people were also TST members and are playing a role”.

Grey loves innuendo but does not point out examples. The chances are that it was another lie and slur on whoever his target of the day is. This will soon rebound on him as more people wake up to what he is doing.

2023 Nov 3

“They take a scholarly approach to understanding the material”. Is that not a valid approach by anyone? But apparently Grey thinks it is a bad thing.

The points may be addressed in future posts.

Still to this day, he has not come up with any more than accusations, inuendoes and slurs. Sarah has not detailed her accusations either.

Appendix 2 - Release of DM’s

Just in case anyone has any doubts as to whether I should have released these DM’s with Sarah. Grey Area Monarch released a DM of mine as a deliberate mental health slur, Grey Area Monarch Released Private Message in Mental Health Slur [SSGM13]. Furthermore he chose to send some selected of my DM’s to his friends and flying monkeys as propaganda.

My default position is that I do not release DM’s. I knew he was a luciferian programmer from my DM’s with him, but still did not release that information, even even though I thought it was essential information for survivors to know and survivors were possibly at risk from him. I did not release that information until after he had publicly released my DM solely to try and make a mental health slur. I explain the dilemma here Grey Area Monarch Luciferian Programmer [SSGM16].

I now understand that he is 100% a dark personality who will go to any lengths to control and manipulate other people and enjoy it.

Indexes

• Index of Posts on the Predator Grey Area Monarch [SSGMIn]

• Index of Posts about Sarah Moch [SSSMIn]

• Index of Posts about Paula Blades [SSPPIn]

• Scarlet Sage Index [SSI]

Previous Posts Quoted in this Post

• GreyAreaMonarch and Sarah Moch [SSGM38]

• Grey Area Monarch Luciferian Programmer [SSGM16]

• Grey Area Monarch Released Private Message in Mental Health Slur [SSGM13]

• Moch’s Myths 1 - Sarah's Antichrist Election Idiocy [SSMM1]

• Jessie, Me and that Photo [SSJ1]

• Jessie's Tweets to Satanists [SSJ2]

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